danimal wrote:
Do I dare go where this article is leading? Its tradition. Cheerleaders in short skirts. It's American. Who is trying to protect who with a rule like this? Is it the female teachers, who like in my day anyway, you would NEVER EVER want to see in a mini skirt, or the male teachers that may have wondering eyes? Every place one looks now days, from the skimpy olympic outfits to the kids on the street,to the work place, EVERYWHERE, this is nothing new or harmful. Contrary to some beliefs, cheerleading is not about sex.
Schools want to teach that there was no creation, thus no God. Then they add in that homosexuality is OK, then worry if a skirt is too short?
Truth be told, those few extra inches added to the skirts won't stop teenage boys from dropping their pencils, if you catch my drift. And if a girl is prone to flaunt it, she will find a way to sit, stand, bend, etc to do so, no matter what she is forced to wear. Also these outfits come with proper under garments as long as the girls have on the complete outfit, the school board needs to just shut up.
Schools want to teach that there was no creation, thus no God. Then they add in that homosexuality is OK, then worry if a skirt is too short?
Truth be told, those few extra inches added to the skirts won't stop teenage boys from dropping their pencils, if you catch my drift. And if a girl is prone to flaunt it, she will find a way to sit, stand, bend, etc to do so, no matter what she is forced to wear. Also these outfits come with proper under garments as long as the girls have on the complete outfit, the school board needs to just shut up.
28 August 2008 03:13:28
Susan wrote:
I think it's dumb that they even think this is newsworthy. Who cared about that when Lima City Schools adopted their "campus wear" policy? Sure, it's a long tradtion at many schools for cheerleaders AND sports participants to wear their uniforms on game day... but is it a tradition worth making such a big stink about? Geez. At least these girls can still wear their uniform tops with pants or something... that's more than the Lima kids can do.
There are bigger things worth worrying about.
There are bigger things worth worrying about.
28 August 2008 07:26:23
danimal wrote:
Is it me, or does this girl in the picture have one knee thats higher up (her left one) than the other one? So which one would you measure from on this kid? Not that I was actualy looking that close
28 August 2008 13:24:04
GRACEtoSTAND@ wrote:
Yeah...that's precisely why our educational system is in shambles. It has nothing to do with removing the ten commandments and a generic prayer which recitation fostered reverence for Someone higher than onself, and respect for authority figures and peers.
The scandalous condition of our public school system has nothing to do with teaching human children that, rather than bering created in the image of a holy and loving Creator, they are descendants of apelike creatures that spontaneously materialized from ooze.
The scandalous condition of our state schools has nothing to do with the deliberate dumbing down of academics, coupled with the the social engineering of socialist atheists.
Nothing to do with discipline being replaced by drugs...
No, the whole problem began with those horrid, evil dress codes!
The scandalous condition of our public school system has nothing to do with teaching human children that, rather than bering created in the image of a holy and loving Creator, they are descendants of apelike creatures that spontaneously materialized from ooze.
The scandalous condition of our state schools has nothing to do with the deliberate dumbing down of academics, coupled with the the social engineering of socialist atheists.
Nothing to do with discipline being replaced by drugs...
No, the whole problem began with those horrid, evil dress codes!
28 August 2008 14:42:57
danimal wrote:
The following is a poem written by Judge Roy Moore from Alabama . Judge Moore was sued by the ACLU for displaying the Ten Commandments in his courtroom foyer. He has been stripped of his judgeship and now they are trying to strip his right to practice law in Alabama ! The judge's poem sums it up quite well.
America the beautiful,
or so you used to be.
Land of the Pilgrims' pride;
I'm glad they'll never see.
Babies piled in dumpsters,
Abortion on demand,
Oh, sweet land of liberty;
your house is on the sand.
Our children wander aimlessly
poisoned by cocaine
choosing to indulge their lusts,
when God has said abstain
From sea to shining sea,
our Nation turns away
From the teaching of God's love
and a need to always pray
We've kept God in our
temples, how callous we have grown.
When earth is but His footstool,
and Heaven is His throne.
We've voted in a government
that's rotting at the core,
Appointing Godless Judges;
who throw reason out the door,
Too soft to place a killer
in a well deserved tomb,
But brave enough to kill a baby
before he leaves the womb.
You think that God's not
angry, that our land's a moral slum?
How much longer will He wait
before His judgment comes?
How are we to face our God,
from Whom we cannot hide?
What then is left for us to do,
but stem this evil tide?
If we who are His children,
will humbly turn and pray;
Seek His holy face
and mend our evil way:
Then God will hear from Heaven;
and forgive us of our sins,
He'll heal our sickly land
and those who live within.
But, America the Beautiful,
If you don't - then you will see,
A sad but Holy God
withdraw His h and from Thee.
~~Judge Roy Moore~~
The damn ACLU is at fault here...as well as everywhere else in this country. They should be disbanded and outlawed...
America the beautiful,
or so you used to be.
Land of the Pilgrims' pride;
I'm glad they'll never see.
Babies piled in dumpsters,
Abortion on demand,
Oh, sweet land of liberty;
your house is on the sand.
Our children wander aimlessly
poisoned by cocaine
choosing to indulge their lusts,
when God has said abstain
From sea to shining sea,
our Nation turns away
From the teaching of God's love
and a need to always pray
We've kept God in our
temples, how callous we have grown.
When earth is but His footstool,
and Heaven is His throne.
We've voted in a government
that's rotting at the core,
Appointing Godless Judges;
who throw reason out the door,
Too soft to place a killer
in a well deserved tomb,
But brave enough to kill a baby
before he leaves the womb.
You think that God's not
angry, that our land's a moral slum?
How much longer will He wait
before His judgment comes?
How are we to face our God,
from Whom we cannot hide?
What then is left for us to do,
but stem this evil tide?
If we who are His children,
will humbly turn and pray;
Seek His holy face
and mend our evil way:
Then God will hear from Heaven;
and forgive us of our sins,
He'll heal our sickly land
and those who live within.
But, America the Beautiful,
If you don't - then you will see,
A sad but Holy God
withdraw His h and from Thee.
~~Judge Roy Moore~~
The damn ACLU is at fault here...as well as everywhere else in this country. They should be disbanded and outlawed...
28 August 2008 14:49:20
Lucente wrote:
Grace,
Clearly you missed the point. I expressed no problem with the dress code and, in fact, I am on record as supporting uniforms in schools, and I mean uniforms, not some "campus wear" policy that really is nothing more than a weak dress code.
My point is that school officials, who are supposed to be teaching our children critical-thinking skills, but they fail miserably because they, themselves, lack that ability. Clearly, allowing the cheerleaders to wear their uniforms, which, by the way, is a school-sanctioned uniform, does not defeat the purpose of the dress code and, in fact, probably furthers the ultimate goal of fostering school spirit, teamwork, pride and ownership in something, and all the other things that go toward keeping children focused on something bigger than themselves.
Unfortunately, school officials are acting like petty bureaucrats who lack the ability to think outside their list of rules.
~tjl~
Clearly you missed the point. I expressed no problem with the dress code and, in fact, I am on record as supporting uniforms in schools, and I mean uniforms, not some "campus wear" policy that really is nothing more than a weak dress code.
My point is that school officials, who are supposed to be teaching our children critical-thinking skills, but they fail miserably because they, themselves, lack that ability. Clearly, allowing the cheerleaders to wear their uniforms, which, by the way, is a school-sanctioned uniform, does not defeat the purpose of the dress code and, in fact, probably furthers the ultimate goal of fostering school spirit, teamwork, pride and ownership in something, and all the other things that go toward keeping children focused on something bigger than themselves.
Unfortunately, school officials are acting like petty bureaucrats who lack the ability to think outside their list of rules.
~tjl~
28 August 2008 16:52:28
danimal wrote:
Susan,
Thats a good question you asked about traditions. Are they worthy of making a stink about?
It's always been a tradition (around my familly) that the eldest male living in the household we have Thanksgiving at be the one who carves the turkey. It's tradition that the presents are opened on Christmas eve, after supper, wich by the way is always the same meal...its Tradition. We always have Pork and sourkrout on News years day, after a dance and toast at midnight on the eve before. The "RED WHITE and BLUE" often flies on the front of the house...but ALWAYS on every holliday. The groom may kiss the bride and a huge meal and wake follows all funerals. Those are but a few of the ones that come to mind in my life. And yes, now that I think of it, they are a big deal. And although we are talking about high schools and cheerleaders here, just because we don't share that tradition, does not mean it less important to them.
Our culture is founded on many things, and tradition is one of them. At least to me it is.
Thats a good question you asked about traditions. Are they worthy of making a stink about?
It's always been a tradition (around my familly) that the eldest male living in the household we have Thanksgiving at be the one who carves the turkey. It's tradition that the presents are opened on Christmas eve, after supper, wich by the way is always the same meal...its Tradition. We always have Pork and sourkrout on News years day, after a dance and toast at midnight on the eve before. The "RED WHITE and BLUE" often flies on the front of the house...but ALWAYS on every holliday. The groom may kiss the bride and a huge meal and wake follows all funerals. Those are but a few of the ones that come to mind in my life. And yes, now that I think of it, they are a big deal. And although we are talking about high schools and cheerleaders here, just because we don't share that tradition, does not mean it less important to them.
Our culture is founded on many things, and tradition is one of them. At least to me it is.
28 August 2008 17:18:11
danimal wrote:
Tom,
Thanks for going into a bit more detail on your thoughts. Educators are not paid well enough, so you just don't get the best minds leading the way. Not to belittle teachers. They are alll worthy of respect for trying and caring. What I mean is that The school leadership...on the highest levels seem to be lacking the knowlage to be effective.
Thanks for going into a bit more detail on your thoughts. Educators are not paid well enough, so you just don't get the best minds leading the way. Not to belittle teachers. They are alll worthy of respect for trying and caring. What I mean is that The school leadership...on the highest levels seem to be lacking the knowlage to be effective.
28 August 2008 17:25:15
dan wrote:
so danimal wants higher taxes, so we can pay those teachers better? So the best minds can lead the way?
28 August 2008 17:33:51
wrote:
The Cheerleading uniforms should meet the school's dress code. It's as simple as that. One or the other needs changed.
28 August 2008 17:50:36
HappyG wrote:
I saw a picture of one of the cheerleader on Fox this morning. She skirt was a LOT shorter than this girl's picute. The one I saw, the hem was close to the bottom of the butt.
28 August 2008 19:13:03
Susan wrote:
Danimal, I see your point, however, if the length of those skirts is deemed inappropriately short for regular clothing in schools, why would it suddenly be appropriate and acceptable just because it's a "school sanctioned" uniform? I think those "school sanctioned" uniforms are getting more and more inappropriate and I wouldn't let my daughter wear something like that even if she was at the football game on the cheerleading squad. As skimpy as these girls' outfits are getting these days, it's amazing that more boys aren't joining the cheerleading squad (for obvious reasons).
Interestingly enough... the most people I see making a fuss about this dress code banning the cheerleading outfits from being worn in school are men (as long as the girls wearing the super short skirts aren't their own daughters).
Interestingly enough... the most people I see making a fuss about this dress code banning the cheerleading outfits from being worn in school are men (as long as the girls wearing the super short skirts aren't their own daughters).
28 August 2008 20:54:56
Susan wrote:
Oh and danimal, about the traditions. Some traditions are good and worthy of protecting and continuing, others... not so much. "Hazing" used to be a huge tradition among high school and college sports teams, fraternities, clubs, etc...until kids started dying. At weddings, some people consider it "tradition" to smash the wedding cake all over their new spouse's face (even when their new spouse does not want that)... what a lovely tradition... not. In several Middle Eastern countries, genital mutilation of little 8 year old girls is a highly regarded "tradition". Anything can become a "tradition"... no matter how evil, dangerous, moronic, or just plain distasteful it might be.
28 August 2008 21:04:32
chuck@ wrote:
This story made http://detentionslip.org! Check it out for all the crazy headlines from our schools.
28 August 2008 21:22:00




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School officials lack common sense
Monroe high school freshman Sarah Ihle poses in her freshman cheerleading outfit on Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008, in Monroe, Ohio. The Monroe school district this year is requiring all skirts worn in class to be no shorter than 3 inches above the knees. (AP Photo/The Enquirer, Leigh Taylor)
This story from the Cincinnati Enquirer is yet another example of government school officials exercising no common sense. And we trust these people to educate our children?
Do Monroe school officials really have nothing more to worry about than the cheerleaders' skirts being too short to wear to the school on game day? Really, if they are so short and problematic, perhaps the district shouldn't let the girls wear the skirts at all.
No wonder America's education system is in shambles.
category | Education
author | Lucente