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I truely hope this is the end of the republican party
Let this be a lesson to all the "true" conservatives
who voted for McCain. He voted for the Bailout and it
did nothing but get the banks nationalized and
he helped author the McCain/Kennedy Amnesty bill and the Latino's paid him back by voting for Obama. The guy was nothing but a sacrifical candidate.
Get ready for the fundamental change that is coming
to Amerika.
Let this be a lesson to all the "true" conservatives
who voted for McCain. He voted for the Bailout and it
did nothing but get the banks nationalized and
he helped author the McCain/Kennedy Amnesty bill and the Latino's paid him back by voting for Obama. The guy was nothing but a sacrifical candidate.
Get ready for the fundamental change that is coming
to Amerika.
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Susan wrote:
Part of me feels like letting out a deep breath and saying, "Thank goodness it's finally over"... but a bigger part of me is realizing that it's not over... there is no end in sight. I just hope that Biden was wrong when he made his statement promising that Obama will be tested within his first 6 months in office with an extreme international crisis. Does his warning mean that if we are struck with another 911 type attack we can blame Obama? And are we supposed to feel like any loss of American life due to whatever this "international crisis" is, is acceptable as long as Obama can pass the "test"?
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Susan wrote:
There IS an upside though... there will be MANY opportunities for some of us to say "I told you so" over the next four years.... if you enjoy that sort of thing of course.
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Susan, another good thing to come of this is, Americans are not racist. He could not have gotten elected without the white vote. Calling racism has been a crutch. Michelle Obama is guilty of that, too. Now, the blacks should realize they can stand on their own feet. However, the backside is, liberals don't want them to be independent of their "kind of help".
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Susan wrote:
I was thinking that very thing last night and this morning, Happy. I wonder how this is going to affect us right here in Lima where we have such a problem with people using "racism" as their crutch and their excuse. Last night, they were excited that they have finally made it... but in the light of day this morning, where they have been so used to blaming the racists for their sad lot in life, I wonder how many are thinking, "what do we do now?"
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You realize, Happy, we will be accused of being "racist" for even thinking such things.... remember, not voting for Obama in the first place already made us racist.
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Political correctness gone amuck and the building of the entitlement society liberals see as their shining city on a hill has given us this day and outcome. Granted, the historic nature of Obama being elected proves America is not the racist slum democrats paint it as. For true conservatives, we have four years to rise from the ashes of the party that has went left for years.
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Susan: What nonsense! I can understand your disappointment that your candidate did not win but that 'racist' comment was just plain silly. Thank you for starting my day with a laugh though.
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05 November 2008 15:28:36
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Susan wrote:
Lee, you don't live in this country, so I will forgive your lack of understanding. What you call nonsense and silly is what is actually happening HERE. I have heard with my own ears, people accusing other people of being racist solely because they do no support Obama. Apparently, in this country, it is ok for black people to support Obama ONLY because he is black, but it isn't ok for white people to NOT support Obama for ANY reason.
Australia must be some sort of utopia...
Australia must be some sort of utopia...
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danimal wrote:
To all:
The 22nd amendment sets term limits on the President. That is not our biggesst problem in the USA. No hone has a crystal ball here as far as I know. We now have a new President and it's time we get behind him and try to better our country, both at home and overseas. More contact and voiced opinions to your Congressmen is a good starting point. Even California came through with some down home conservitism with the gay marraige ban. Dan Beck is gone. Payday loans can stop the blood sucking, and we didn't give carte' blanc to the out of state cassino company.
Life in the USA will be going forward with or wothout you. Suck it up, try to get invovled, and make a differance.
The 22nd amendment sets term limits on the President. That is not our biggesst problem in the USA. No hone has a crystal ball here as far as I know. We now have a new President and it's time we get behind him and try to better our country, both at home and overseas. More contact and voiced opinions to your Congressmen is a good starting point. Even California came through with some down home conservitism with the gay marraige ban. Dan Beck is gone. Payday loans can stop the blood sucking, and we didn't give carte' blanc to the out of state cassino company.
Life in the USA will be going forward with or wothout you. Suck it up, try to get invovled, and make a differance.
Uninted We Stand
. That's what America is about.Devided We Fall
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OH yeyah....and that's NOT DEBATEABLE
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For cryin out loud danimal! the day after Obama's elected ,you turn in to a
moonie!!
moonie!!
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05 November 2008 16:23:45
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Susan wrote:
danimal.... the scolding really isn't necessary.
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Susan: Who are these people that you hold in such high esteem that you will not even question their false assertions?
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Susan...what? Not scolding!!!!
SgtDad...a moonie? Please explain that one. I missed your meaning Sgt.
SgtDad...a moonie? Please explain that one. I missed your meaning Sgt.
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Not understanding exactly what you are asking, Lee (probably because of this headache),can you rephrase please?
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OK, danimal... I've got a raging headache, I'm feeling extra sensitive. Sorry.
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OK, try a different angle: Just had a look at the NY Times exit polls figures.
The % white voters voting Democrat in this election was 43%. In 2004 it was 44% and in 2000 it was 42%. There is no more evidence that white voters voted for Obama to avoid being called racist than there is that they voted for McCain to avoid being called ageist (or sexist).
What I was getting at was that these people who you say call you racist for not voting Democrat are clearly wrong in their assertion and yet you repeat it as if what they say is true. Why not just ridicule them? They certainly deserve it, don't they?
The % white voters voting Democrat in this election was 43%. In 2004 it was 44% and in 2000 it was 42%. There is no more evidence that white voters voted for Obama to avoid being called racist than there is that they voted for McCain to avoid being called ageist (or sexist).
What I was getting at was that these people who you say call you racist for not voting Democrat are clearly wrong in their assertion and yet you repeat it as if what they say is true. Why not just ridicule them? They certainly deserve it, don't they?
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danimal,
just yanking on your chain, razzing you about your let's all get behind Obama
comment. just for the record I ain't gettin behind him and I'm sure as hell not
letting him get behind me!
Susan,
hope your headache goes away soon..
just yanking on your chain, razzing you about your let's all get behind Obama
comment. just for the record I ain't gettin behind him and I'm sure as hell not
letting him get behind me!
Susan,
hope your headache goes away soon..
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05 November 2008 18:04:56
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Susan wrote:
I see what you're saying now, Lee. I doubt many, if any, white people actually voted for Obama in order to avoid be called racist. I hope I didn't make it sound like I thought that way. I do think that a lot of white people avoided telling people who they were voting for so that they wouldn't have to fear being labelled racist, and there were, no doubt, some who said they were voting for Obama but voted differently in the privacy of the voting booth... and the same goes for people who said they would vote McCain and actually voted for Obama...no way of telling. When people accuse me (or anyone else) of being racist for not supporting Obama, I don't feel like there is any merit to what "they" say when they claim we are against him because of the color of his skin, and clearly, they are wrong in their assertion.. it's just disgusting that they say it and it's supposed to be ok for them to say it but it's not ok for me to say that a lot of black people only voted for Obama because he is black.. It's that age old double standard that really just ticks me off. But, make no mistake, I was being sarcastic when I made the statement to HappyG in the first place.
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Susan wrote:
Thanks SgtG'sDad... someone very close to me died today and I think it's the tension of it all causing this headache. Sorry if I let it make me come across more brusquely in my replies to you.
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Ah! don't worry, your talking with a guy who trades insults with Ron Lederman
and danimal..
and sorry to hear about your loved one..
and danimal..
and sorry to hear about your loved one..
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OK, thanks Susan.
The same polls suggested a surge in black vote for Obama. 95% voted Democrat in 2008, 88% in 2004 and 90% in 2000. But it was overshadowed by the young (48(00), 54(04), 66(0
). Curiously, Catholics were up too.
There was much talk of the Democrat machine getting new voters registered and out but the overall voter turnout didn't seem unduly up.
Hope your headache is better.
The same polls suggested a surge in black vote for Obama. 95% voted Democrat in 2008, 88% in 2004 and 90% in 2000. But it was overshadowed by the young (48(00), 54(04), 66(0
There was much talk of the Democrat machine getting new voters registered and out but the overall voter turnout didn't seem unduly up.
Hope your headache is better.
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Not all is lost this time around, pro8 in California passed
there is a silverlining after all!
there is a silverlining after all!
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05 November 2008 21:09:41
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Sgt Dad....lol...ok dude. BTW, if you could see through your monitor you'd see I just shot a moonie! No wait, I aint gay, dont start that crap dude!!!!
Sorry for your loss, you have my prayers if thats OK. ADVIL for the rest of the headache girl.
Sorry for your loss, you have my prayers if thats OK. ADVIL for the rest of the headache girl.
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Susan wrote:
Yes, danimal, that is absolutely OK. Thank you.
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Why would anyone think that Obama will get a 2nd term, let alone need a limit?
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DT,
you think Obama's just a one-termer like Carter?
you think Obama's just a one-termer like Carter?
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06 November 2008 16:45:15
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HappyG wrote:
This sums up what just happened. It's a very good article, so enjoy!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/wortham1.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/wortham1.html
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06 November 2008 17:05:33
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SGD,
I think Carter is the most apt analogy to Obama. Except Carter had some executive experience.
Obama was like a deer in the headlights for much of the campaign, only McCain's blundering and the media's softball treatment got him through. Now unfortunately we'll see clear evidence that he has no idea of what he's doing.
I think Carter is the most apt analogy to Obama. Except Carter had some executive experience.
Obama was like a deer in the headlights for much of the campaign, only McCain's blundering and the media's softball treatment got him through. Now unfortunately we'll see clear evidence that he has no idea of what he's doing.
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Sgtdad, I don't think this is the end of the Republican Party. But, if it is. This is not the end of the Conservitives. We may have lost this one. But, we have just begun to fight. We will regroup and come back. Go on and gloat for now. Because, like I have said in the pass. You all will be sorry that you voted for Obama in a few years. I hope I am wrong for my Childern sake and Grandchildern sake. But, we will see in a few years.
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Militarymom,
I didn't vote for Obama, I voted for Chuck Baldwin. I'm down on the
present day republican party NOT conservatives. The present day republican
party practises pragmatism, pragmatism may work in war and love but never
with morals or politics.
It's time a for new conservative party, the Constitution Party and the Libetarian
Party should merge and form a new alliance..
I didn't vote for Obama, I voted for Chuck Baldwin. I'm down on the
present day republican party NOT conservatives. The present day republican
party practises pragmatism, pragmatism may work in war and love but never
with morals or politics.
It's time a for new conservative party, the Constitution Party and the Libetarian
Party should merge and form a new alliance..
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07 November 2008 13:47:58
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Ok, Sgt. Dad, What is the Constitution Party? I never heard of it. What do they believe in? I agree with the Libertarian Party, until it comes to religion. That is where I differ with that Party. I am not a shame to say, I am a strong right wing evangelical Conservative. I may give on my Politics, but I will not give on my Religion Believes. That is why I could never be a Libertarian. Oh, by the way Sgt.Dad. I could change my name to Staff Sgt.MOM. That is the rank my Son is now in the USMC. In Aug. he will be Commissioned to a 2nd. Lit. If everything goes ok.
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Lucente wrote:
Militarymom,
What does the Libertarian Party have to do with your religion? No Libertarian would ever ask you to give up your religion. There is no connection whatsoever.
~tjl~
What does the Libertarian Party have to do with your religion? No Libertarian would ever ask you to give up your religion. There is no connection whatsoever.
~tjl~
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Militarymom, good for your boy! Gideon is a Staff Sgt too.
What is the Constitution Party? It's a Party that strictly follows
the Constitution as it is written none of this living breathing
document nonsense! Go online and google them, you will like
what you read.
The Dems are never pragmatic only the republicans are, that's
why we have abortion, socialism in schools, and the counterculture
in the mainstream. Thats what happens when you give on politics
Militarymom..
What is the Constitution Party? It's a Party that strictly follows
the Constitution as it is written none of this living breathing
document nonsense! Go online and google them, you will like
what you read.
The Dems are never pragmatic only the republicans are, that's
why we have abortion, socialism in schools, and the counterculture
in the mainstream. Thats what happens when you give on politics
Militarymom..
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