NY Post cartoon was an opinion, get over it

TO" MR. NO-SENSE...I MEAN LUCENTE

FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS THE BLACK MAN HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS APE-LIKE. WE DIDN'T LIKE IT HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO AND WE DON'T LIKE IT NOW. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AMERICANS BECOMING THIN-SKINNED AS YOU SO "ELOQUENTLY" PUT IT.

ALL "MONKEY" BUSINESS ASIDE, IN YOUR INFINITE WISDOM DID YOU EVER JUST THINK OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE TWO BULLET WHOLES IN THE MONKEY'S CHEST. NO, OF COURSE NOT. YOUR THINKING IS NOT THAT MATURE.

IN SOME PEOPLE'S OPINION, THIS PICTURE COULD BE VIEWED SIMPLY AS A PREMONITION OR WISHFUL THINKING OF SOME PEOPLE TO SEE OUR FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT ASASSINATED.....DID THAT EVER ENTER YOUR THICK SKULL??

EVEN THOUGH BUSH SCREWED UP THIS COUNTRY ECONMICALLY AND IN MANY OTHER WAYS.....I DON'T EVER RECALL SEEING OR HEARING A CALL FOR HIS EXECUTION.

MR. LUCENTE, YOU NEED YOUR HEAD EXAMINED!!!

Too bad white men like you with the power of the press decide that anything that deepens white privilege is beyond criticism.

TO LUCENTE AND ALL OTHERS WHO MIGHT WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THIS CARTOON WAS NOT AIMED AT OBAMA, BUT WAS AIMED AT CONGRESS WHO ACTUALLY WROTE THE BILL:

FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE STIMULUS PACKAGE WILL NOT GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE DEMOCRATIC STIMULUS PACKAGE, OR THE CONGRESSIONAL STIMULUS PACKAGE....IT WILL ALWAYS BE REFERRED TO AS THE OBAMA STIMULUS PACKAGE AND HE WILL GET CREDIT FOR IT'S FAILURE OR SUCCESS.

MOREOVER, IF THE CARTOONIST ACTUALLY MEANT TO DEPICT THE "WRITERS" OF THE BILL BEING "ASASSINATED", THEN THE CARTOON WOULD HAVE HAD BULLET HOLES IN THE CHEST OF 535 "MONKEYS BECAUSE THERE WERE 435 LEGISLATORS FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND ANOTHER 100 "MONKEYS" FROM THE SENATE WHO HAD THEIR HANDS IN THE WRITING AND APPOVAL OF THE BILL. IN THIS CARTOON, ONLY ONE "MONKEY" WAS SINGLED OUT. THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.

PAINT ANY SPIN ON IT YOU WANT TO, BUT THIS CARTOON WAS DIRECTED AT ONE PERSON AND ONE PERSON ONLY.......PRESIDENT OBAMA.

ONLY A SIMPLE FOOL WOULD BELIEVE OTHERWISE......AND IF THE SHOE FITS....WEAR IT LUCENTE.

LATIF WADI KADIM,
Again, you show you are unable to read and understand.
The caption on the cartoon says clearly..
"They'll have to find someone else to WRITE the next stimulus bill."

Do you see that? WRITE.
That means AUTHER, pen to paper as it were. Obama did not write a single word of that bill..AND HE DID NOT EVEN READ IT BE HE SIGNED IT. So yes, if it fails, which it will because these things have never worked, he will get the blame. And rightly so.
Your argument is moot. Your wrong again.

Pictures of former President Bush as chimps:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushchimpanzee.htm

Here's a few thousand pictures of Bush, depicted as a chimp:

http://images.google.com/images?q=Bush+Chimp&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBS&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=ZF-dSaqoJZaitgelidjeBA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title

Get real, if the cartoonist wanted to imply that "the messiah" was the one getting shot, he would have depicted him as the cartoon character"curious george. The resemblence is amazing.

Diane Tomlinson,

You are kidding, right? White privilege? Where is that white privilege? I certainly am not seeing it.

This has nothing to do with white privilege nor does it have to do with race. Obama is a chimp. So are most of the members of the House and the Senate as well as five of the Supreme Court justices. That is not a racial comment, it is a political comment. America would be better off if a chimp had written the stimulus bill.

As for equality, I find that those who think they are not being treated fairly in life are the very ones being treated equally. Life is hard and it sucks. That is equality. Stop blaming your woes on race and start looking for the real causes. Jim Crow died a lont time ago.

~tjl~

Latif,

You need to get a sense of humor. Or is your hatred of America, especially white America, so deep you can't even laugh?

~tjl~

The NAACP is nothing but an organization of professional racists. They extort monies by using the victim status, and the poor blacks certainly don't benefit. Instead, they are pawns to the organization. The NAACP could care less about what is fair, but their goal is what is best for them. It's been proved over and over. The organization, like ACORN, has been caught over and over using shakedown tactics to get their way, and to hell with fairness. It's all about them. And, our politically correct and cowardly congress doesn't call any of them on it. Instead, they allow for a black caucus to push their agenda within an agenda. A black caucus, nor a woman's caucus does not belong in Congress. Period!

LATIF,
You need to do your math over. You said there should be 535 dead monkeys, but none of the house repubs voted for the bill and only three repubs from the Senate voted for it, so you need to revive your number of dead monkeys.

TO DANIMAL:

PLEASE GO BACK AND READ MY LAST POST WHERE I TRIED TO STATE AS CLEARLY AS I COULD THAT WHAT THE "CAPTIONS" ON THE PICTURE SAY AND WHAT THE PICTURE ACTUALLY REPRESENTS ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. MY STATEMENTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE HEAVY FOR YOUR SMALL MIND TO COMPREHEND.

SO YOU SEE, IN FACT, I DO READ AND UNDERSTAND THINGS VERY WELL. I ALSO AM ABLE TO INTELLIGENTLY ANALYZE THINGS FOR WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE. YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, JUST "TALK TO HEAR YOURSELF TALK" AS THE OLD FOLKS USED TO SAY.

EVERYTHING ELSE IN YOUR POST TO ME IS NOT WORTH ADRESSING.............

TO HAPPY G:

YOU ARE ABOUT AS SLOW AND NARROW MINDED AS "DANIMAL".

THE WHITE MAN HAS NOT BEEN DEPICTED AS AN APE FOR THE LAST THREE HUNDRED YEARS BY A RACIST SOCIETY. OF COURSE, BUSH AND BUSH LOVERS WOULD NOT BE OFFENDED BY HIM BEING DEPICTED AS A MONKEY. PERSONALLY. I THINK THE SOUTH END OF A DONKEY TRAVELING NORTH WOULD BE A BETTER DEPICTION OF BUSH.

YOU ARE NOTHING BUT SMOKE, BELLS, AND WHISTLES WHEN IT COMES TO POSTING ON THESE FORUMS..........LOL.

CIAO A TUTTI AMIGO!!!!

The cartoon should have never been permitted to run,the implications either real or percieved were to great...

...all of you great thinkers can ponder over the intent all you want but ask the average joe or jane on the street and you will see its offensive to most, black or white...

TO BUCKET:

O.K.......SO BROTHER OBAMA HAS BIG ELEPHANT EARS.

WHAT'S YOUR POINT? YOU AND HAPPYG AND DANIMAL ARE ONE OF A KIND. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WOULD TAKE ALL THREE OF YOU TO MAKE ONE FUNCTIONING HUMAN BEING.

(SEE LUCENTE....I DO HAVE SENSE OF HUMOR.......LOL!!!!)

CIAO A TUTTI THREE AMIGOES!!!!!

TO LUCENTE:

YOU AND THE THREE AMIGOES (HAPPYG, DANIMAL, AND BUCKET) ARE ALL "CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH"............AND NOT A VERY EXPENSIVE CLOTH I MIGHT ADD......PROBALBY BURLAP.......LOL.

(SEE I HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR)

(1) WHAT THE CARTOONIST, THE POST, AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BELIEVE IS THAT THE CARTOON WAS DEPICTING ALL OF CONGRESS AND WAS "JUST POLITICAL". WELL, ONCE AGAIN FOR THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED OUT THERE, IF THE CARTOONIST WAS DEPICTING "CONGRESS", THE PRESIDENT, ET AL, THEN WHY ONLY ONE MONKEY AND NOT 600+ MONKIES.....AND WHY A FRIGGIN "MONKEY" IN THE FIRST PLACE.

DID YOU SEE THE TWO GAPING BULLET HOLES IN THE MONKEY'S CHEST. SOME KIND OF JOKE....I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING.

PAINT ANY SPIN ON IT YOU WANT TO........SOME PEOPLE WILL VIEW IT AS A PREMONTION OF A TRAGEDY THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WISH FOR. SHAME ON THE POST FOR PUBLISHING THE CARTOON AND SHAME ON PEOPLE LIKE YOU FOR TRYING TO CONDONE IT.

(2) HOW THE HELL DID YOU JUMP TO "SOME ONE SEEKING EQUALITY"? AIN'T NOBODY ASKING FOR EQUALITY ANYMORE (YOUR THINKING IS SO OUTDATED SOMETIMES)..... ALL MINORITIES OF ALL PERSUASION (ASIANS, GAYS...WHATEVER) WANT IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. UNFORTUNATELY, LIFE IS NOT FAIR.......AND THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN THIS WHITE MALE MAJORITY RULED COUNTRY.

OH SORRY....FORGOT TO TURN MY "ALL CAPS" BUTTON OFF. AM I GOING TO BE BANNED FROM YOUR BLOG...........LOL.......SEE HOW FUNNY I CAN BE SOMETIMES....LOL.

TO HAPPYG:

I MUST CORRECT MYSELF. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT SMOKE, BELLS, WHISTLES...... AND B.S.

WHAT SCARES ME ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU IS THAT YOU ACTUALLY DO "BELIEVE EVERY NOTION THAT YOUR TINY LITTLE MIND COMES UP WITH........LOL.....YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU "THINK".

CIAO A TUTTI HAPPYG!!!

TO SCANT:

MATH WAS NEVER MY GREATEST SUBJECT......AND WORD PROBLEMS OF ANY KIND USE TO MAKE ME SICK OF THE STOMACHE AND PUKE.....LOL.
I GUESS WHAT BOTHERED ME THE MOST ABOUT THIS CARTOON WAS THE "BRUTALITY" OF IT. DID YOU SEE THE TWO GAPING BULLET HOLES IN THE MONKEY'S CHEST? WASN'T THAT JUST A HOOOT??????????????????????? HOW COULD ANYONE BUT LUCENTE AND THE THREE AMIGOES FIND ANYTHING FUNNY ABOUT THAT CARTOON.

I'm glad you found your sense of humor, KADIM. Since you are so intelligent, you also know that an ape, in some form, has been used depicting George Bush thousands of times. Animals have always been a part of political cartoons. I guess Obama is the exception, since he is the anointed one. I'm not going to lower myself, and tell you I'm not a racist, but you are the one who has hate in his heart. I don't hate Obama, but do find him scary because of his policies. But, I don't think the chimp in the cartoon is directed at Obama, but at Pelosi, who drafted the monster. She has a lot in common with the chimp who mauled the woman. Had a jackass mauled that lady, a jackass would have been used in the cartoon. But, it's easier, and more befitting to shout racism, to achieve a goal.

I do not believe everything I think, but my thinking leads me to my beliefs. Nothing wrong with that. Happy hating KADIM. It will get you to many places you don't want to be.

Latif blah blah..,
One thing you seem to be missing. The cartoon is not funny bacause it is a political cartoon. They are not ment to be funny most of the time.
I have a picture of myself, in chalk, as a chimp, that was done at Cedar Point.
I am married to a non-white woman. I know about racism first hand from that.
No one wants to see Obama fail. We need this country to recover.
I voted for him. But that does not mean I won't question him or his plans.
You said, quote
"I DO READ AND UNDERSTAND THINGS VERY WELL. I ALSO AM ABLE TO INTELLIGENTLY ANALYZE THINGS FOR WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE."
Well, you are very wrong with that statement, as I have just proven with the facts about who I am and who I voted for. I am not a racist. But I won't argue that point because you clearly are an angry deep rooted racist.
You clearly have shown you are part of the problem, not the solution.

TO DANIMAL:

I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT ALL MY POSTS AND I JUST CAN'T FIND ANYPLACE I CALLED YOU A RACIST..............MIGHT OF SAID YOU WERE SCATTER BRAINED OR MENTALLY CHALLENGED....BUT NOT A RACIST.

THE FACT THAT YOU ARE "CONDONING" THIS CARTOON AS A "POLITICAL SATIRE" NOW INSTEAD OF A "CARTOON"...........LIKE THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE........TELLS ME ALL I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YOU AND YOUR OTHER THREE AMIGOES. IN SHORT..... YOU BELIVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK.....LOL.....AND WILL ALWAYS TRY SOME WAY TO JUSTIFY THE MOST RIDICULOUS THINKING........RACIST NO........FOOL....MAYBE. OR AS YOU WHITE FOLK OFTEN TELL ME......MAYBE YOU ARE JUST MISGUIDED.......LOL.

JUST CURIOUS: DID YOU HAPPEN TO NOTICE THAT I AM ONLY SIGLING OUT YOU AND PEOPLE THAT THINK LIKE YOU. I AM NOT INDICTIG THE ENTIRE WHITE RACE.

TO HAPPYG:

JUST BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND SAY THAT YOU SAY SOME STUPID THINGS SOMETIEMS DOESN'T MEAN THAT I HATE YOU AND THE ENTIRE WHITE RACE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU.

I AM A MUSLIM. I TRY TO LOVE ALL PEOPLE. I HATE IGNORANCE, BIGOTRY, INJUSTICE, ETC., NO MATTER WHAT COLOR IT COMES PACKAGED IN.

I JUST DON'T SEE HOW A CARTOON OF A MONKEY WITH TWO GAPING BULLET WHOLES IN HIS CHEST IS FUNNY ENOUGH TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEW YORK POST. ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR "ANY" REASON NEEDS THEIR HEAD EXAMINED. IF THE SHOE FITS WEAR IT.

I don't think the cartoon was funny. The cartoonist was making a point, that was lost on a lot of people. Perhaps he should have found another animal to use that looks like Pelosi. A rat, maybe? I just think it was too much ado about not much. That's all. And, I appreciate your attempts at loving all people. I do the same. I just disagree about the cartoon. That's all.

latif,
you sure are good at name calling....thats a racist traight....
And you say you are a muslim. Uh, ok whats that book you worship?
You know, the one that calls for the killing of all of us folks that are not muslim. Oh yeah latif, that shows a lot of love brother. did you happen to notice you are the only one here that is acting like a fool? And I think it's nice that you have someone typing for you now...it clear since your first posts were so poorly writen. Did you hire someone, or is it a slave? Some Muslim countries have slaves you know.

LATIF WADI KADIM,

A level playing field? That is exactly what you have.

A Muslim who loves all people? I think we all have seen the result of Muslim love. Airplanes in buildings, beheadings, honor killings, public stonings, capital punishment for the slightest offenses. Yes, I am well aware of Muslim love. Spent a year of my life in the desert learning the meaning of Muslim love.

Muhommad was a warlord and the entire religion was founded on violence and 1,600 years later little has changed.

This cartoon is political satire and was not racist. But, of course, because the president is black, every attack on him will be labeled by those like you who still cling to oudatesd ideas of race, as a racist attack.

And the NAACP, by the very fact that it is for the advancement of COLORED people, makes it a racist organization. Any group who sole aim is geared toward a group because of skin color is racist.

The first step is admitting you have a problem ...

~tjl~

LATIF WADI KADIM, How long have you been a Muslim? Are you the same LATIF WADI KADIM who has posted on other sites, as Gary Hodges, a local teacher? I didn't reveal your name, but on several sites, including MySpace, a person by the name of LATIF WADI KADIM posted that he is also Gary Hodges from Lima, Ohio. On one site, you promoted polygamy. Did you become a Muslim AFTER 911? If so, that says a lot about how you feel about your country.

Excuse my error. I called you Gary instead of Greg Hodges. My mistake. Sorry

OOoo...Mr Hodges huh. A teacher that retired at 48?
Lets see. 18 years old....plus 9 years military=27plus 4 years school=31.
48 minus 31=17....what? He taught school 17 years and retired rich? Something just does not add up. Except that he his a liar.

From newyorkpost.com:

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Last updated: 8:18 pm
February 19, 2009
Posted: 8:00 pm
February 19, 2009

Wednesday's Page Six cartoon - caricaturing Monday's police shooting of a chimpanzee in Connecticut - has created considerable controversy.

It shows two police officers standing over the chimp's body: "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill," one officer says.

It was meant to mock an ineptly written federal stimulus bill.

Period.

But it has been taken as something else - as a depiction of President Obama, as a thinly veiled expression of racism.

This most certainly was not its intent; to those who were offended by the image, we apologize.

However, there are some in the media and in public life who have had differences with The Post in the past - and they see the incident as an opportunity for payback.

To them, no apology is due.

Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon - even as the opportunists seek to make it something else.

latif do wa didi didi now that Obama is president I guess we're even on that slavery thing eh ?
Ciao "T"

PERSONALLY I THINK THE CHIMP LOOKS LIKE AL SHARPTON

FYI:
LATIF WADI KADIM = Greg Hodges
[email protected]

Norfolk Naval Station ~ Naval Base
Norfolk Naval Station ~ Naval Base
St. Leo University, ST. LEO, FL, Class of 1984
Golden Gate University - Business, SAN FRANCISCO, CA, Class of 1986
Wright State University - Engineering, DAYTON, OH, Class of 1980
Norfolk Naval Station ~ Naval Base
Shemya Air Force Base
Mather Air Force Base
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
Nellis Air Force Base
Lima High School, LIMA, OH, Class of 1971

PLEASE, QUIT YELLING ON THE FORUM!

Yeah...I know him...He was 1 year ahead of me at Lima Sr. The only reason he joined the navy was because the Army was going to draft him in the lottery. But glad he did. At least he served...even if he is a misguided jerk.

It seems that Latif has gone quiet. Is he ashamed of something? Or do muslims just hate it when people remind them of who they really are? Or is it a rule the murdering muslims have, that you have to change your name? I am done with that guy. Nothing he has to say holds any validity. Just another black racist hater. And that makes him as bad a the KKK...they are killers too, just like his faith teaches. One is no better than the other.

Hey Latif,

"The Qur'an says: "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)

You have turned your back on the USA and dare come here with your whining about a cartoon?
Best i can say is shut the **** up. Get out. Move to a cave with Osama. You are not worthy of one more post. You are a coward.
Or maybe you will understand it better like this,
YOU ARE A COWARD, YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP.

I don't see anything racial in the cartoon at all. Racists are hypersensitive and will read racism into anything.
Get over it people, the cartoon was bad but not meant as anything racial.

Evidently, Latif didn't see all the news reports about the chimp being shot being policemen, or is that racial too.
His insisting to type in all caps lost all credibility for me.
You are too thin skinned Latif, GET OVER IT!

Where was Latif when we were bombarded with the thousands of depictions of Bush as a chimp? Probably cheering the MSM on.

TO HAPPYG:

I THINK THIS GUY IN NEW YORK SOME PLACE SUMMED UP THIS ARGUEMENT THE BEST. HE SAID THAT AT IT'S BEST THE CARTOON IS JUST A POLITAL PARODY AND AT IT'S WORST THE THE CARTOON WAS A CALL FOR THE ASSISSNATION OF OBAMA. I GUESS IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE YOUR SYMPATHIES LIE.......YES?

BUT NOW YOU RAISE THE ISSUE OF ALL OF THIS FUSS BEING "TOO MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING"......

"ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO PREVAIL IS FOR GOOD PEOPLE TO SIT BACK AND SAY OR DO NOTHING".......IN OTHER WORDS SOME OF US WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW YORK POST USE BETTER JUDGEMENT IN THE FUTURE.

"...AND AT IT'S WORST THE THE CARTOON WAS A CALL FOR THE ASSISSNATION OF OBAMA. I GUESS IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE YOUR SYMPATHIES LIE.......YES?..."

Well, I certainly know where your sympathies lie. And no, I do not want anything bad to happen to Obama. But, the cartoon isn't about him. For you, it is, because that is where your sympathy lies. You like being the victim. All people are born equal, and have the right to pursue happiness. Why don't you try to pursue happiness, rather than demand it be given to you? We are created equal, but it seems that some folks prefer being the underdog so they can maintain a victim status and complain their way through life. Using government as an equalizer will never work. You should know that by now.

TO DANIMAL:

YOU ARE PATHETIC, BUT I WILL TRY TO ANSWER EACH ONE OF YOUR SILLY RANTINGS:

(1) NAME CALLING IS A RACIST TRAIT.....

NO IT IS NOT. IF YOUR WHITE COUSIN CALLS YOU AND IDIOT.....HE IS NOT LABELED A RACIST.......PRETTY OBSERVANT GUY WITH A SHARP TOUGUE, BUT NO RACIST.....LOL.

(2) WHAT HOLY BOOK DO I READ?

MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT OF THE HOLY BIBLE, THE JEWISH TORAH, AND THE HOLY KORAN. WE BELIEVE IN ONE GOD FOR ALL PEOPLE, WE BELIEVE IN ANGELS AND PROPHETS, DIVINE INTERVENTION, AND REVELATIONS. YEP, THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP FOR YOU. I LOVE TALKING ABOUT ISLAM.

(3) MUSLIMS KILL INFEDELS......ACT LIKE A FOOL, ETC

THERE ARE 1.5 BILLION MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD. WE ARE NOW THE LARGEST ORGANIZED RELIGIOUS GROUP IN THE WORLD.....LARGER THAN THE CATHOLIC DENOMINATION. WE ARE IN EVERY COUNTRY OF THE WORLD AND PROBABLY MOST CITIES OF THE WORLD. THERE ARE MUSLIMS OF ALL COLORS AND PHILOSOPHIES.

IN SHORT, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF MUSLIMS JUST LIKE THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. AND JUST LIKE YOU ARE SOMETIMES ASHAMED OF YOUR BEHAVIOR, WE ARE ALSO SHAMED BY THE BEHAVIOR OF SOME MUSLIMS. I WILL NOT TRY TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR THOSE MUSLIMS WHO SEE VIOLENCE AS AN "ONLY" COURSE OF ACTION.......ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INVOLVES TAKING THE LIVES OF INNOCENT CHILDREN.

YES. SOME MUSLIMS HAVE SLAVES. YES, SOME CHRISTIAN PEOPLE HAVE IN THE PAST AND STILL TODAY, OWN SLAVES......THAT IS NOTHING NEW OR ANYTHING I WOULD CONDONE AS A MUSLIM.

(4) IS SOMEONE TYPING MY POST.....FIRST POSTS WERE SO POOR....DID I HIRE SOMEONE TO DO RESPONSES FOR ME.

I'LL JUST ACCEPT ALL OF THAT AS WHAT THE CALL A VEILEDED COMPLIMENT. THANX.

IN SHORT, SOMETIMES I HAVE MORE TIME AT MY DISPOSAL AND SOMETIMES I AM JUST MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I AM SAYING.

PAY SOMEONE TO RESPOND TO ALL OF THIS DRIBBLE............LOL.

This is a complete joke. Are we in such a hole as a country that since we have an african-american president everytime there is a cartoon that could POSSIBLY be linked to racism in the eyes of the like of THE REVEREND AL SHARPTON (who has been attributed to over a handful of murders through his hateful actions) we have to have a discussion on it. I cannot believe that Rupert Murdoch put an apology in the Post. I guess his new wife is getting to him.

TO LUCENTE:

LET ME ADDRESS YOUR "RANTINGS" ONE AT A TIME:

(1) ALL AMERICANS ARE PLAYING ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD......

THE GOLDEN RULE: "HE WHO HAS THE GOLD, MAKES THE RULES"

AS IT STANDS, WHITE MALES DOMINATE THE WEALTH IN THIS COUNTRY AND SO THEY MAKE ALL OF THE RULES.........AND ALL OF THE MONEY..........LOL. DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THIS WHITE MALE MAJORITY IS WALKING AWAY WITH AS A RESULT OF THE SO CALLED ECONMIC MELT DOWN........LOL. NO, ALL AMERICANS AREN'T PLAYING ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

(2) THE PROPHET M (BBUH) WAS A WARLORD AND THE ISLAMIC RELIGION WAS FOUNDED ON VIOLENCE..............

THE PROPHET WAS MANY THINGS DURING HIS LIFE TIME. HE WAS A HUSBAND TO NINE WIVES, A FATHER TO ONE DAUGHTER, HE WAS A TEACHER, HE WAS A PROPHET, HE WAS DELIVERED THE KORAN BY THE ANGLE GABRIEL, HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE ISLAMIC RELIGION.......AND YES......WHEN MUSLIMS WERE PERSECUTED BY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS IN THE FIRST CENTRY OR SO OF THE COMMON ERA........ HE BECAME A VERY SUCCESSFUL "WAR LORD" OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

SIMPLE STATED, ISLAM WAS FOUND ON THE PRINCIPLES OF PEACE......PERIOD. OUR HOLY KORAN ATTEST TO THAT.

ARE THERE VIOLENT MUSLIMS.....YES. ARE THERE VIOLENT JEWS.........THINK GONZA. ARE THERE VIOLENT CHRISTIAN.........THAT SHOULDN'T TAKE YOU NEAR AS LONG TO CALCULATE IN YOUR MIND.....LOL

(3) THE CARTOON WAS A POLITCAL SATIRE:

SOME GUY IN NEW YORK SAYS THAT AT IT'S BEST THE CARTOON WAS A POLITACL SATIRE AND AT IT'S WORSE IT WAS A CALL FOR THE ASSISSNATION OF PRESIDENT OBAMA. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT SIDE OF THE FENCE YOU SIT ON. I GUESS I HAVE TO AGREE WITH HIM. WHAT ABOUT YOU.....DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM?

(4) THE NAACP NAME PROMOTES ADVANCEMENT OF "COLORED" PEOPLE SO THEREFORE IT IS RACIST.....

THE REAL IRONY OF THE NAACP NAME IS JUST THE USE OF THE WORD "COLORED" PERIOD. TO MOST BLACK FOLK PEOPLE THAT WORD IS JUST ONE LITTLE STEP ABOVE THE WORD NI.GG.ER. FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WON'T CHANGE IT TO "BLACK PEOPLE"......LOL.

DOES THE NAME MAKE IT A RACIST ORGANIZATION.....NO SILLY MAN. IT IS WHAT IT IS... JUST A NAME. THE NAME DOESN'T EXCLUDE ANY RACIAL GROUP.....IT ONLY IMPLIES THAT IS "PRIMARILY" FOCUSED ON THE ADVANCMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE.....THERE'S THAT WORD AGAIN.

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. IF THE LIVES OF BLACK PEOPLE AT LARGE ARE IMPROVED BY THE NAACP'S EFFORTS......DOESN'T EVERYONE WHO COME IN CONTACT WITH THESE BLACK PEOPLE ALSO RECEIVE SOME INTANGIBLE OR ECONMICAL BENEFITS ALSO.

THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS ACCUSE YOU OF BEING NARROW MINDED. YOU SOMETIMES SEEM TO DWELL ON JUST ONE SIDE OF AN ARGUEMENT.......YOUR SIDE....LOL

(5) I SHOULD ADMIT TO HAVING A PROBLEM

WELL FIRST YOU HAVE TO TELL "ME" WHAT "MY" PROBLEM IS............

TO HAPPYG:

JUST WHEN I THOUGHT YOU WERE COMING AROUND, YOU HIT ME WITH ALL OF THESE STUPID "PERSONAL" QUESTIONS:

(1) ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ME PERSONALLY IS THAT MY NAME IS LATIF WADI KADIM AND I AM A MUSLIM. EVERYTHING ELSE IS REALLY NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

(2) YES, I BELIEVE THAT POLYGAMY CAN BE AN HONORABLE THING FOR A MAN TO DO.

(3) I BECAME A MUSLIM LONG AFTER 911.......YES I LOVE MY COUNTRY........ YES I SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMED FORCES.....YES I WORKED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS..........AN NO I DON'T PROMOTE TERRORISM OF ANY KIND.

WTF.......ARE YOU WRITING MY LIFE STORY OR SOMETHING?

TO DANIMAL:

WHY IS MY LIFE SO IMPORTANT TO YOU AND A FEW OTHERS. IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE.

OR IS THIS WHERE ALL THE RACIST THREATS START???? I WOULD EXPECT AS MUCH FROM YOU AND SOME OTHERS..........LOL.

Your life is no more important than mine. You appear to want racist threats, but then, you are the racists, so rant away. Most of the racism in America comes from minority groups, and that's a fact!

TO DANIMAL:

WOW........

YOU NEED TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT TAKING A BREAK FROM YOUR COMPUTER FOR A WHILE......I THINK YOU ARE LOSING IT AMIGO. THIS WILL SURELY BE MY LAST POST TO YOU.......LOL.

TO CRASHBOT OR WHATEVER:

WHY WOULD I BE CONCERNED IF "YOU" THOUGHT I WAS CREDIBLE OR NOT?

DID LUCENTE DIE AND MAKE YOU EDITOR OF THIS BLOG IN HIS ABSENCE OR SOMETHING...LOL?

IF THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS DISCUSSION......YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO BACK TO BED OR GO WATCH JERRY SPRINGER OR SOMETHING......LOL.

OOOPS.....FORGOT TO TURN OFF MY "ALL CAPS" AGAIN...............

Reagan1, I concur. President Bush was called Chimp repeatedly -

Calling Obama Chimp is not racist - it is in fact just a way of talking about the President. (Even though the cartoon was not about Obamamama)

I have never referred to him as a Chimp, but if it shows that he is being referred to the same way as our previous 'white' president. Calling him Chimp is treating him the same.

People like you are wearing out the race card. Even Eric Holder used the racist card and called Americans, cowards. What a thing for a man in his position to say. That's a hint about what this administration is all about.

Most whites don't bring up Obama's race, but they do wonder about his citizenship status. The media is enthralled with is race, "...the first Black President...blah, blah, blah. To me, he is a liberal president, and who is for everything I don't believe in. My angst is Obama the president, not Obama the black president. He's supposed to be president to all the people, but he is failing in that respect.

As for you, I could give a rat's petuey. You joined in the debate, and we obliged you.

TO HAPPYG:

YES, YOU KNOW WHERE MY SYMPATHIES LIE.......AND I KNOW WHERE YOUR'S LIE ALSO.......LOL.

WHEN YOU WERE PREACHING ABOUT "VICTIMS" AND "FINDING HAPPINESS", WHERE YOU TALKING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE IN GENERAL OR ME IN PARTICULAR????? JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I "EDUCATE" YOU.....

"It's Eric Holder and his fellow travelers who are the cowards

by John Kinsellagh, Boston Republican Examiner
« PreviousIn a speech he gave for Black History Month, Attorney General Eric Holder called America a nation of cowards when it comes to discussing racial matters in a frank manner. In light of the fact that many white voters were instrumental in helping to elect the nation's first African-American president, I can't think of a more incongruous speech nor a more inopportune time for making such comments, ironically, coming out of the mouth of the nation's first African-American Attorney General.

Instead of celebrating the election of Barack Obama as a historical milestone in the nation's history, Holder characterizes his ascension to the presidency as dealing, "with the reality of electing an African American as our President for the first time." An odd choice of words. Could he not have simply acknowledged the significance of this achievement to the effect that discrimination against blacks has been markedly reduced?

Probably not, and here's why: Holder is a member of that liberal constituency group that I would characterize as "the perpetually aggrieved." No matter the extent of the progress America has made in eradicating the past sins of racism or discrimination, any such efforts will always be deemed incomplete, demonstrating the need for further erosion of our liberties to satisfy their undefined standards of perfection. For those like Holder, discrimination that occurred in the past will always be sufficient justification for remedial action to be administered by the heavy hand of government in the present and eternally into the future. Exactly what conditions would satisfy Holder to the effect that we are no longer a racist country? He doesn't say.

Many of those who share Holder's sentiments were part of the lynch mob who were perfectly happy to find the members of the Duke Lacrosse Team guilty before any of the facts were known simply by virtue of their skin color and because the alleged circumstances of the case conveniently fit their preferred template of America as a racist country. Speaking of "cowardly", did Holder speak out against the despicable treatment meted out to the innocent members of the Lacrosse team by the media and Duke University as aiders and abettors of a racially-motivated monstrous hoax? Did he condemn prominent African-American leaders who all too eagerly jumped on the bandwagon?

If he wants frank discussions about race then he should be prepared to defend the continued practice of quota hiring system and a racial spoils system. Is Holder, like the Democratic Party, inextricably tied to the practice of identity politics? One could make the plausible argument that Barack Obama were he white would have been laughed off the stage if he tried to run for president based on his razor thin resume and scant qualifications as a "community organizer."

Obama enjoyed unparalleled advantages by virtue of his skin color, as have all beneficiaries of affirmative-action/quota hiring policies. Perhaps Holder can explain to us exactly how was Obama's race a hindrance to his running for president?

Holder addresses the issue of affirmative action by stating:

There can, for instance, be very legitimate debate about the question of affirmative action. This debate can, and should, be nuanced, principled and spirited. But the conversation that we now engage in as a nation on this and other racial subjects is too often simplistic and left to those on the extremes who are not hesitant to use these issues to advance nothing more than their own, narrow self interest.
Thus, Holder acknowledges that legitimacy of debating the need for affirmative action, but, in the same breath paints those who oppose it as belonging on the "extremes" and are interested in using it to advance their self-interest. Sounds like a cowardly way to have a frank discussion about race if you're going to stigmatize those who oppose reverse discrimination as racist.

Holder may call for a "frank" discussion on race, but as long as he and his fellow travellers in the media continue to invoke the race card, which Obama wielded so skillfully in the past election, no one will oblige him in his plea for candor when latent charges of "racism" will always act as to preclude an intellectually honest and enlightening debate. In terms of defining the permissible contours of debate on many issues of race, as long as there exists one standard for whites and a completely different one for blacks, any ensuing discussion will be nothing more than an exercise in futility.
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Link to above post: http://www.examiner.com/x-2913-Boston-Republican-Examiner~y2009m2d18-Hope-and-Change-The-Massachusetts-Experience

Latif Wadi Kadim,
Individuals like you are what is wrong with America today. Your "us vs. them" attitude is a major problem. It is not a racist problem but an individualistic ideal that you are better than others due to your background. GROW UP!!! And the "white male" who is making all of this money is the just deserves for individuals who have worked hard for their money (in 99% of the cases). Im sure Oprah has taken every advantage to make money off of obama with the free press for her show. Bob Johnson is a billionaire as well. Not to mention Russell Simmons, etc. What do they all have in common though? They bust their asses to make their money. People who are wealthy in most cases (white or black) are a product of hard work and labor. Get over blaming the "white man" for all of your problems.

I VERY RARELY bat an eye over these types of things but this was in very very poor taste. Tom can't defend his position without bringing up Al Sharpton FIVE TIMES in a relatively short story and that's because Al Sharpton IS kind of an idiot. Tom's problem is that Al Sharpton doesn't speak for all black people nor does he represent them. I'm not black, and Tom just said more about himself with this editorial than I think he ever meant to. Keep the Post open, freedom of speech is important despite people like Tom Lucente giving it a bad name.

Latifa,
I have no problem with you being black. I do have a problem with you being an idiot.
Polygamy? Again, unable to make a commitment? Idiot.
Muslim....again...
explain this please, in simple language so even I can understand your own stupidity about your murdering beleifs.

"The Qur'an says: "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)

You did not address this..... everything eles you said was just pure hogwash and makes no sense.

TO REAGAN1:

NOT SURE WHAT TO MAKE OF ALL OF YOUR RAMBLING ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE LIKE "AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOU"...........YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME. AND TO TRY AND COMPARE OPRAH AND RUSSELL SIMMONS.....WITH MADOFF AND THESE BANK EXECS WALKING OFF WITH ALL OF THESE UNDESERVED BILLIONS IS ABSURD......INDICATES TO ME THAT YOU ARE NOT THE BRIGHTEST AND SHINIEST APPLE IN THE BARREL.....THERE IS NO COMPARISON IN HOW THEY GAINED THEIR WEALTH.

I FORGET THE ACTUAL FIGURES, BUT I REMEMBER READING SOMETHING THAT SAID 1 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION CONTROLS LIKE 90 PERCENT OF THE U.S. WEALTH. FOR THE MOST PART THIS IS WHITE MALE, INHERITED WEALTH. IT IS NOT EARNED MONEY!

SPEAKING FOR MYSELF ONLY, EDUCATION AND HARD WORK ARE THE KEYS TO ANY SUCCESS IN THIS COUNTRY. I STARTED WORKING WHEN I WASS EIGHT YEARS OLD CUTTTING GRASS IN THE NEIGHBORBOOD, WORKED ALL THE WAY THRU HIGH SCHOOL, HELD SECOND JOBS THE WHOLE NINE YEARS I WAS IN THE MILITARY, WORKED OVER TWENTY YEARS FOR THE FEDERAL GOV'T , AND OBTAINED THREE DEGREES WHILE GOING TO SCHOOL IN THE EVENINGS AFTER WORK. AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE I WANT OR LACK FOR NOTHING AND NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE IF I CHOOSE NOT TO. MOREOVER, I DON'T FEEL LIKE A VICTIM AND I KNOW DAMN WELL I AM THE EQUAL OF MOST MEN, BLACK OR WHITE.

SO YOU ARE KIND OF PREACHING TO THE CHOIR IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ME PERSONALLY ABOUT HARD WORK.

MY PHILOSOPHY ON RACE RELATIONS:

"IF YOU WANT TO MAKE PEACE......TALK TO YOUR ENEMIES NOT YOUR FRIENDS".

THAT IS WHY I AM SO PATIENT WITH ALL YOU WHITE FOLK WHO LIKE LABELING ME A RACIST BECAUSE I EXPRESS A VIEW THAT IS IN OPPOSITION TO YOUR WHITE MALE MAJORITY THINKING.

NOW IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE IN GENERAL, I AM INCLINED TO AGREE WITH YOU. FOR THE MOST PART, AMERICANS BLACK, WHITE, AND BROWN, HAVE LOST THEIR WORK ETHICS AND MORE OR LESS WANT SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.
AUHLMDULLILLA AHKI.

TO DANIMAL:

THOUGHT I TOLD YOU THAT I HAD THE "IGNORE" BUTTON ON YOUR POSTINGS.

NOT ONLY ARE YOU STUPID, BUT YOU ARE HARD HEADED AS WELL.

GO WATCH JERRY SPRINGER.......THAT'S WHERE YOUR PEERS ARE AT!!!

AUHLMDULLILLA AHKI!!

Latifa,
Once again you have dodged the question. That is typical of your kind. Your kind, not meaning black, but meaning ignorant. A basic tenet of islam......
"The Qur'an says: "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)
Yet you have offered no reasoning or explination of why you believe in this book of hate and lies.
Also we lable you as a racist because you suport racist organizations like the NAACP.
And you keep saying you retired at 48. How sad for you. That shows mw you are lazy.
I too could retire, but I am too young to just not work.
And no you did not hold a 2nd job the WHOLE time you were in the service. That is never allowed during basic and AIT training. So lets just put that down as another exagerated claim....you make so many. Or on the other hand, lets just call it an outright lie...just like that rag you worship...the "The Qur'an". IMO.

I have always found that those who have to boast about how intelligent they are actually the least intelligent and most insecure.
The great people don't have to tell others how great they are.

Here's a site, owned by a black blogger named Tyrone. He has a lot of good articles, written by him.
http://wakeupblackamerica.blogspot.com/2009/02/race-pimps-and-dead-chimps-part-1-draft.html

TO DANIMAL:

YOU ARE PERSISTENT.

I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE KORAN, BUT YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS ARE JUST MORE DRIBBLE ABOUT ME PERSONALLY...WHICH REALLY AIN'T NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS;

KORAN: THE KORAN IN IT'S ORIGINAL VERSION IS MORE OF A SONG THAN A BOOK OF PROSE. THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU ALWAYS HEAR IT CHANTED BY IMAMS. THE ORIGIANL KORAN WAS ALSO, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WRITTEN IN ARABIC. THIS IS A LANGUAE NOTHING LIKE ENGLISH AND A LITERAL WORD BY WORD TRANSLATION IS "IMPOSSIBLE. MOREOVER, BECAUSE IT IS SONG-LIKE IN NATURE, THERE ARE SOME PORTIONS OF THE KORAN THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN LITERALLY. FOR INSTANCE A PHRASE LIKE THIS: "THE PROPHET ASCENDED TO THE HEAVENS IN A GREAT GOLDEN CHARIOT PULLED BY A THOUSAND HORSES EXHALING FIRE". ....WELL THAT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LITERALLY.

SO WHATEVER YOU ARE READING, IF IT IS WRITTEN IN ENGLISH, THAN IT IS JUST A VAGUE TRANSLATION AT BEST. THE KORAN IS FILLED WITH TWO MANY THINGS WE WOULD CALL METAPHORS (I THINK THAT IS THE WORD).......WORDS THAT ARE USED TO CAPTURE THE IMAGINATION AND AWE OF A PERSON THAT IS READING OR SINGING IT.

BECAUSE OF THE VERY CONTRASTING DIFFERENCES IN THE ARABIC AND ENGLISH LANGUAGE (WHICH IS WRITTEN IN SYMBOLS AND NOT LETTERS), IT IS VERY EASY FOR TRANSLATORS TO COMPLETELY REVERSE MEANINGS BY ACCIDENT. THERE ARE MUSLIM CLERGY THAT STILL DON'T AGREE ON SOME OF THE "MEANINGS" OF THE KORAN.

SO AGAIN, I SAY............DON'T ALWAYS BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ AND THINK.

AUHLMDULLILLA AMIGO!!!

TO CRASHBOT:

DON'T KNOW WHO ARE WHAT THE HE.LL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I LIVE BY THIS PHILOSPOPHY:

GREAT MINDS DISCUSS EVENTS AND IDEAS.......SMALL MINDS (LIKE YOURS) WANT TO TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.

WHY DON'T YOU FOOLS LEAVE MY PERSONAL LIFE OUT OF THIS AND STICK TO THE ISSUE........WHICH I THOUGHT WAS ABOUT THE CARTOON........OR PERHAPS YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE INTELLIGENT TO SAY ABOUT THE STUPID CARTOON.

BETTER YET JUST VISIT MY MYSPACE PAGE PAGE........I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE FROM YOU FOOLS...MY URL: MYSPACE.COM/MUSIQUE2006

IT IS YOU, HAPPYG, AND DANIMAL AND OTHERS THAT HIDE BEHIND YOUR SILLY LITTLE COMPUTER NAMES.........LOL. WHAT DO YOU ALL HAVE TO HIDE....LOL.

SORRY....BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY EMBARASSING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY FOR YOU TO POST ON THIS BLOG.......LOL.

Latif,
Lots of good doublespeak there. However I have researched this and this is not a misquote or mis translation. And it's not a song. It is as direct as it gets and this translation is accepted by muslim readers and teachers the world over.
I wonder if , as a muslim, who condons polygamy, would you behead all of your wives that filed for a divorce? After all , the same book that wants me dead claims that divorce brings shame upon a familly. ....How do people get so misguided.

TO DANIMAL:

GO WATCH JERRY SPRINGER............IGNORE BUTTON TURNED ON AGAIN.....LOL.

Latif--you are right- you don''t know what YOU are talking about because you are not the brilliant one you claim to be. Your claim to fame to to seek to drwon out others opinions by insulting and patronizing them, not by honest debate.

Great minds don't have to tell others how great they are. I don't givea damn who you are, you are nothing to me.
You sir, have zero credibility.

Crashbot,
LATIF cannot enter into real debate because he is single minded and has his facts all skewed. He can't even explain why he is what he is. He is a product of puppetry and lives by the talking points of others, but even then he only hears half of what is said and understands even less.
He was born in this great country, educated here, given oppertunity here, and took it all as an entitlement. Then turned his back on the nation by converting to islam AFTER 911...after see all the Mmuslim people the world over laugh at the dead in the World Trade Centers. After seeing the musims CHEER for the death and distruction...he converted ...as a traitor to the country. Very sad and not worthy of any more time on our part. He is useless, worthless fodder. I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on him if he was on fire. .......

TO ALL:

IT'S BEEN NICE....BUT ALL OF THIS "PERSONAL CRAP"...IS GETTING OLD.
"DENYING THE TRUT WON'T CHANGE IT OR MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!"
ALLAH'HAFIZ.....AUHLMDULLILLA!!!

To all those who are overreacting and calling Mr. Lucente a racist: get over it! You are exactly the kidn of moron he weas targeting in this blog. I'm so fucking sick of mainstream media and black elites trying to frame the debate for us, rather than letting US frame the debate as citizens. The mainstream media people in CNN or MSNBC are NOT the average America. They do not represent what regular, clearheaded Americans like me think. The media can suck it. I'm tired of the race-baiting and overreacting on racial issues. I'm tired of all this crap about how we have a "racial divide", when clearly we don't. Or this "post-racial" America nonsense. Look, who cares if we're a post-racial America or not? We're already come far enough in the race issue, I think. Any attempts to go further will be met with failure. We're colorblind enough. You should be glad 53% of Americans voted for a black guy. That seems pretty post-racial to me.

Remember all the uproar over Don Imus? He calls the Rutgers basketball team "nappy-headed hos", something which is so obviously protected under the First Amendment, and yet all the black race-baiters and liberal elites wanted to punish him for speaking his mind. Isn't free speech supposed to protect unpopular speech?? Isn't that the whole point? I'm so sick of all this apologize nonsense. Adults aren't supposed to tell other adults to APOLOGIZE. Apologies come from the heart, not orders. And besides, what good is an apology from NY Post gonna do? Who cares if they apologize or not? It's not gonna 'fix' anything.

You know, sometimes a cartoon REALLY IS just a cartoon. You guys should be glad that NY Post even offered an apology, instead of continuing to bitch and complain that it's a "conditional" apology. Big whoop! You really think the NY Post, a conservative paper, is going to buy into your race-baiting and just flat-out apologize and act like it's completely guilty?

And why is this significant, to all those who make such a big deal out of the cartoon? The NY Post is a second-rate paper with a very small readership. The media people who decided to focus on it are only adding fuel to the fire! If the cartoon truly was racist, wouldn't you think that it wou ld be better to talk about it less, so it gets less attention and publicity? And what is this cartoon gonna do?

Have you heard of any hate crimes being done in the name of the cartoon lately? I haven't! So who cares! All the race-baiters and ultrasensitive liberals need to get a clue. America doesn't look at the issue of race as black and white as you do. We actually do have SHADES OF GREY!! If you'd actually talk to average Americans, you'd know this. And fuck Eric Holder. He's just exploiting the racial issues associated with Obama (because Holder's black) now to call the nation a "nation of cowards". Well, as a libertarian, I do NOT want the government telling me what to do, and I sure as hell don't want the state telling me I need to "have a conversation" about race. I'll have the conversation when I'm damn well ready.

Think about this: If a white person had said what Holder said, there would be a huge uproar from blacks calling himself a racist and all sorts of names. I'm tired of double standards.

Latif,
I started cleaning clubs when I was 6 so Ive one uped you there....I recently passed the Ohio state bar exam and am a practicing attorney. I understand how economics work as I have taken classes in such. Again...u misquote my facts... 99 percent of people who are millionaires or even billionaires have made their money working hard and long hours. I intend to do the same and hope all of americans have this attitude. You are blaming all of americas problems on "the white man." The why did you work for the "white mans" armed forces? Was it because you didnt see the light before your transformation? Im not labeling you as a racist. Im labeling you as an individualist who believes its your way or the highway. If you dont like america then there are plenty of other countries to live in. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. I respect the fact that you served our county (little trivia...the only 2 Presidents not to serve in the armed forces in the last 50+ years were Bill Clinton and Barack Obama). However, you have an Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan attitude towards America. Everyone is doen one the black man and everyone is out to get you. Get over it. This is the best nation in the world and I dare you to name a better one!

This will be a long cut and paste...but lets see what Louis Farakkan, the Leader of the Nation of Islam has to say about Jews. He isnt a Racist is he?
“Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET?... Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry and television. And they make us look like we’re the murders; we look like we’re the gangsters, but we’re punk stuff.”
“The real anti-Semites are those who came out of Europe and settled in Palestine, and now they call themselves the true Jews, when in fact, they converted to Judaism.”
Al Jazeera TV interview, 3/18/07
“These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength…It’s the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting Lesbianism, homosexuality. It’s wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!
“I’m not an anti-Semite, I never have been one. I do not hate the Jewish people; put that down! What I hate is the degree of control that they exercise over Black intellectual, cultural expression.
“Dewey, Kant and Hegel, and the rabbis that wrote the Talmud, make blacks inferior.”
“I call them the so-called Jews because to be a Jew you have to adhere to the statutes and laws that create the special relationship. How can you be a Jew and promote homosexual marriage?”
"We know that the most powerful people in the country, many of whom are Jews, don't like Farrakhan."
"You say I hate Jews. I don't hate the Jewish people, I never have. But there [are] some things I don't like. 'What is it you don't like, Farrakhan?' I don't like the way you leech on us. See a leech is somebody that sucks your blood, takes from you and don't give you a damn thing. See, I don't like that kind of arrangement. You become our manager, you become our agent. Every one of us that got talent, we can't make it because you opened the door, and when you opened the door you get and we end up dead with nothing, owing the IRS."
Lutif... I am not per se associating you with Farrakan, but he is the Islamic leader in America isnt he? Is he racist?

Latif,

I have no desire to debate someone who doesn't even have hte courtesy to type like a normal person. When you learn to turn off your caps lock key, then perhaps we can have an adult conversation on race. Though I doubt it because you, like those who support the NAACP, simply have an entitlement attitude. You want life handed to you becuase you think that is what equality means.

Get a clue. You have an equal opportunity to be successful in life. If that doesn't happen, you only have yourself to blame, not the white man, who, in reality, is in the same shoes as you, trying to make it in the world.

~tjl~

Just another guy,

It's not my problem that Al Sharpton doesn't speak for all blacks. You make no sense. I give free speech a bad name because I defend it?

I think you are clueless.

~tjl~

TO LUCENTE:

I TOLD YOU WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH YOUR "ALL CAPS........AND I TIRED OF THIS DEBATE A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.......IT SEEMED TO BE TO FOCUSED TOO MUCH ON WHO AND WHAT I AM............LIKE ANY OF YOU HAVE A CLUE........LOL

BUT I SEE YOU ARE STILL AT IT.....EVEN THOUGH YOU (SUPPOSEDLY) REFUSE TO DEBATE WITH ME.....YOU ARE SO CONTRADICTORY.....LOL. I WILL END THE DEBATE WITH YOU SINCE YOU JUST CAN'T RESIST RESPONDING TO MY POSTS.
MAYBE YOU JUST WANT THE LAST WORD LIKE A SILLY LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL......O.K. YOU AND THE THREE AMIGOES PLUS TWO CAN HAVE THE LAST WORDS......I'M OUT....LOL.

AUHLMDULLILLA AMIGO!!!!!

He says that... but we all know he'll never leave....

Latif,

I only said once that I would stop debating with you while you continued to shout at me. Of course, you don't let facts get in the way of your inane rambling. In fact, it is you who keeps saying your finished debating, yet you keep coming back. Which is fine, I am happy to have you here. But if you want to engage me in debate, stop shouting. You are only showing your own ignorance. The thought that you might have really been a teacher frightens me.

~tjl~

I do truly believe that all blacks are really mad at God for making them black, that blacks set at home and cry "Why God, why did you make me black, I wish I was born a white person" if this were not true, then why does everything the blacks say or do always revolve around race, nothing can ever be spoken without blacks eventually bringing in race, the whites don't do this, we are satisfied with how God made us, we don't scream race at every opportunity. Now that a half white man has been elected to the Presidency, all of a sudden he is off limits to the same political humor that has been published since the beginning of the newspaper, as you were told before, get over it, your hypocrisy is only outweighed by your blatant racism.

Here's an excerpt from The American Thinker:
"Yet the reality of slavery is that, along with prostitution, it is one of the world's oldest institutions. It is mentioned in the Bible and Koran, and, to the best of my knowledge, every major civilization has practiced it. And, if we're to believe history and Afrocentrists (and I suppose you cannot believe both), the ancient Egyptians were black and enslaved Jews.
Moreover, the Islamic slave trade took at least as many Africans into bondage as did the European variety, and African tribes themselves had slaves and sold them to both civilizations. Additionally, while the word "slave" conjures up the image of a black person in the typical American mind, the term itself is derived from the word "Slav." This is because great numbers of Slavs were once sold into slavery by conquering peoples. In other words, no group ever cornered the market on slavery because it touched ever corner of the Earth.
Yet, in the history of involuntary servitude, something else should be noted. It is a startling fact: While whites weren't the first ones to practice slavery, they were the first ones to abolish it.
Let's be clear about this. Slavery was accepted. It was the status quo. It was an institution whose origin was shrouded in the mists of time. It was unquestioned.
That is, until Europeans said "No more."
It was not Asians who effected this bold and unprecedented social change. It was not South Americans. It was not Africans. It was not American Indians. It was not Aborigines. It was Europeans, that cancer of human history, and they were just as white then as they are today. They gave the world change you can really believe in.
People will try to explain away this historical fact, saying that this striking example of man’s humanity to man has nothing to do with race. I will simply reiterate that the why of the matter is a discussion for a different day. For now, if whites can be demonized without explanation for being one of many groups to enslave Africans, they can be credited without explanation for being the first group to outlaw the enslavement of anyone.
"

For the entire article, which is interesting go to: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/hating_whitey_1.html

DAMN SKIPPY HAPPY G>
.....I have said this many times to others and only got the old...you started slavery in the first place argument. People are so uniformed ...it boggles the mind.

NAACP calls for firing of N.Y. Post cartoonist
Story Highlights
NAACP threatens to protest paper and Fox television affiliates if cartoonist is not fired

Group also calls for the cartoonist's editor to be fired

The drawing, which lampoons federal stimulus bill, has drawn charges of racism

Post offers qualified apology accusing some of jumping at chance to attack the paper

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Leaders of the NAACP on Saturday called for the firing of the New York Post cartoonist whose drawing lampooning the federal stimulus bill has drawn charges that it's racist and encourages violence toward President Obama.

Speaking at the civil rights group's annual meeting in New York, NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous said that if Sean Delonas is not fired, the group will call for protests of the paper and Fox television affiliates, which are owned by Post parent company News Corp.

"There is consensus that if the Post does not ... get rid of the journalists who are responsible for this bit of hate speech seeing the light of day, that we will move this from a local, regional issue to a very national issue," Jealous said.

The group also called for the cartoonist's editor to be fired.

Many critics said the cartoon played on historically racist images by appearing to compare Obama, the nation's first black president, to a chimpanzee that had been shot by police officers.

The cartoon references the mauling of a Connecticut woman by a chimpanzee who was later shot and killed by police.

In its caption, one of the officers says, "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

Obama had signed the bill the day before the cartoon ran.

On its Web site Thursday, the paper offered a qualified apology, saying it was "most certainly not our intent" to express racism, but also accusing some of jumping at a chance to attack a paper they already disliked. Watch reaction to the Post's apology »

"To them, no apology is due," the paper wrote. "Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon -- even if the opportunists seek to make it something else."

But NAACP Chairman Julian Bond said that explanation rings hollow.

"This is tastelessness taken to the extreme," he said. "For the publication to suggest the only people who object to it are constant critics of the New York Post is beyond ridiculous.

"This was an invitation to assassination of the president of the United States and anyone who was not offended by it doesn't have any sensibilities."

All AboutRacism and Bigotry • Barack Obama • News Corporation Ltd. • NAACP








Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/21/chimp.cartoon/index.html

More nonsense from the NAACP.

It's time to fire the NAACP director and his quarter-million-dollar salary.

The NAACP knows the cartoon wasn't racist, but it serves a purpose to pretend to be offended. If they are too stupid to know how to interpret a cartoon, perhaps they should stay away from the editorial pages.

When I would pour soda into glasses when my kids were small, they would each reach for the tallest glass, even though the short glass was wider, and held more. The one who got the short, wide glass would whine it wasn't fair. My children eventually learned that all the glasses of soda were equal. The NAACP and other black activists get the short, wide glass. Perhaps if we gave them the tall glass, they would shut up? Or demand both glasses?

Of course they would demand both cups. The NAACP is not out for equal opportunity. It is out to gain as much power as possible.

STILL PREACHING TO THE CHOIR....................

Latif...thought you were gone.
Umm...do you know what "PREACHING TO THE CHOIR" means?
It means you agree with Tom, Happy G and myself along with just about everyone else that posts here.
When one says PREACHING TO THE CHOIR, thay are referancing themself as the choir, thus, agreeing. Or do you just consider yourself a member of the boys glee club?

Eric Holder said Americans are cowards because we don't debate race issues. We are discussing race, but it is making a few race baiters madder than heck. I just read where a [white] fireman is suing because he scored the highest on a test, but the job was given to a black person who didn't score so well. That has happened often. Then, there is this article from the American Thinker:

"...Racism. Never. Not once ... well, my ninty-year-old great grandmother didn't like the idea of me dating a ‘colored man.' I remember she really hurt my feelings. But, other than that, I can't think of anything. It just doesn't happen. People love my husband. They respect our family. We just don't have those problems. I don't think people have those problems."
She then told me about some of the mixed race marriages of some of her friends. None of them have problems either. When these couples get together, they don't even talk about racism -- because there isn't any.
Sorry, Mr. Holder, it isn't cowardice that keeps Americans from discussing racism -- it is the fact that there is nothing to talk about. The racist America that you are talking about started to disappear at least thirty years ago.
There are, of course, certain communities in this country that have been deliberately and continually segregated by people like you. In these communities people eat, drink, and breathe racism.
It is a shame that racism still exists in this country. But the Eric Holders, the Jesse Jacksons, the Al Sharptons, and the Barack Obamas of the world are keeping this issue alive. Mr. Holder, the shame and the cowardice of racism belong to you -- not to my son and me..."
Racism, Eric Holder, My Son and Me: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/racism_eric_holder_my_son_and_1.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWOWyHWj6M
Clip from the movie "Death of a President" where it shows George W Bush being assassinated. Kind of a fantasy film for some, I guess.

When I first saw the cartoon, I took it for what I believe it was meant to be: a comment on how ridiculous the stimulus bill was, using a current events story as the vehicle. You have to have black people=monkey linked up in your brain already to make a racist connection in this cartoon. I understand that black people have been called apes by racists for a long time, so I can see how some people saw it that way. I didn't. But in the long run, who cares? I'm just not that easily outraged, I guess. How many of you subscribe to the NY Post anyway?

The claim that this was a call to assainate Obama is moronic lunacy. Thats is a desperate cry. I think we can be sure there are groups and individules already wishing, and /or planning such a thing. But that has been true since the very start of humanity. Someone somewhere is always thinking about killing the leader...

There will always be racists, so long as there are humans. One group of people builds their lives around hating another group, for various reasons. Most of us have better things to do, like build up relations with everyone, rather than tear down. Does anyone really think that if the KKK or Neo Nazis strolled into town, they would get a pass from the white folks? Hell,no! We would be standing alongside every Jew and black person in Lima to run them off.

Yeah, we get angry when blacks do stupid things, like blame whites for everything, but we also get mad at any group, including whites, who wants something through perceived entitlements. We are afforded the right to pursue happiness, but it can't be bought or given. You have to work for it.

Amen Happy

I hope you read this full article. Part II will follow...interesting...
Arrest Made in Home Foreclosure Civil Disobedience Program
Monday, February 23, 2009
By Joshua Rhett Miller

Print ShareThisPolice in Baltimore today made what is believed to be the first arrest in a civil disobedience program aimed at supporting homeowners who refuse to vacate their foreclosed homes.

An activist with ACORN — the Association of Community Organization for Reform Now — faces criminal charges after breaking into a home in southeast Baltimore on Thursday to protest the foreclosure crisis sweeping the country.

"This is our house now," ACORN member Louis Beverly reportedly said after cutting a lock with bolt cutters at the home.

Beverly will be charged with fourth-degree burglary, according to Anthony Guglielmi, a spokesman for the Baltimore Police. Attempts to reach his attorney, Justin Brown, were not immediately successful.

Donna Hanks, who owned the home since 2001, lost it in September when she couldn't make her $1,995 mortgage payments. It was not immediately clear whether Hanks re-entered her home last week, but she was not expected to be arrested, Guglielmi said.

Other police departments contacted by FOXNews.com said arrests would be made if an individual is determined to be residing at a foreclosed home illegally...
Continued at:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498669,00.html

Now, for the rest of the above story:
"From CY reader Sherry, who did a public records search that ACORN apparently wouldn't do, and posted her results in the comments of Obama's Brownshirts Begin Breaking into Homes as "Civil Disobedience."

Thought you might be interested in some REAL information related to this foreclosure; Donna Hanks initially purchased her home (315 South Ellwood, Baltimore, MD 21224) on 7/06/2001 for $87,000. At some date between 2001 and 2006 she re-financed the original mortgage for the amount of $270,000 with a mortgage payment of $1,662.00. The FIRST foreclosure on this home was filed 5/31/2006. Donna Hanks filed for bankruptcy 6/16/06 during which a payment plan was approved for the $10,500 she was behind in her payments. This action stopped the original foreclosure. When she did not meet the terms of the bankruptcy re-payment, a second foreclosure action was started in January 2008. At the time she had not made her mortgage payments since September 2007. It should be noted that her salary per the bankruptcy paperwork was $1625 per month and she was working a 2nd and 3rd job (supposedly giving her an additional $1,275 in monthly income - the employers were not listed). Over extended? Also, during 2007 she was renting our her basement illegally (she was taken to court) and receiving rent while she was not making her mortgage payments. The mortgage company "raised" her payment $300 a month - right? Well, not exactly it was $340. The amount that she had agreed to pay back in arrears. Not exactly truthful, but what I would expect from a person with her criminal record (theft and assault 2nd degree and possession of a dangerous weapon with intent to injure). Oh and there is the small matter of breaking and entering. The house at 315 South Ellwood had already been sold at auction on 6/26/08 for $192,000. It just took them until September 2008 to get her out. Nothing like public information - it seems Acorn could have found this same information before they helped this "poor" victimized woman...
Who will ACORN try to steal a home for next... Tawana Brawley?

"
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/

I hope this works. Click the link. It is a picture of Obama's inaugeration. Then, scan the crowd. You can hone in on each individual person there. Very interesting.
http://gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscreen.php?auth=033ef14483ee899496648c2b4b06233c

THIS IS SUCH A RACIAL CARTOON, I THOUGHT THAT OUR COUNTRY HAD ELEVATED FROM THIS KIND OF IGNORANCE.

Rene, please explain your interpretation of the cartoon, in detail. All you see is a dead chimp, and decided the chimp was Obama. That's not true, but it looks like that's how you WANT it to be.

Oh man... not ANOTHER "screamer" in here, maybe Latif made another name change?

Rene,
The ignorance this country needs to elevate from is your ignorance of turning everything into race divisions. Since you got here somewhat late, go back and read everything on this item.
You will find that G. W. Bush was pictured as a monkey or a chimp many times, as have been many presidents. This cartoon has a monkey's face. NOT OBAMA's face. Unless of course YOU see it there. I do not.
And the caption read "someone else to WRITE the next stimulus"
Obama did not write a single word of the bill. Hell, he didn't even read it before he signed it. If he had, he would not have lied and said there was not earmark pork spending it. He claimed there was not...but the bill is PACKED with it.
You need to grow up out of your little poor me-poor us attitude.

The only group that may have a real bitch on this cartoon is PETA..You know how those bleeding hearts are.

TO SUSAN:

SORRY DARLIN, BUT UNLIKE THE REST OF YOU SPINELESS WIMPS, I AM NOT AFRAID TO POST UNDER MY TRUE IDENTITY........LOL.

JUST THOUGHT I WOULD TAKE A PEEK AT THIS THREAD AND SEE HOW YOU AND THREE AMIGOES AND MR. NO-SENSE WERE RESPONDING TO THE TWO NATIONAL APOLOGIES THAT WHERE PUBLISHED BY THE NEW YORK NEWS BIG-WIGS.........BUT I SEE YOU ARE STILL IN DENIAL.........LOL.

TO: HAPPYG

IT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU SEVERAL TIMES WHY THE CARTOON WAS DESCRIBED AS RACIST AND COULD HAVE BEEN VIEWED BY SOME AS A THREAT OR PREMONITION OF OUR PRESIDENT'S ASSASSINATION. WE HAVE ALSO DISCUSSED IN LENGTH HOW SOME OF YOU CHOOSE TO VIEW THE THE CARTOON AS POLITACAL SATIRE.......BRUTAL, QUESTIONALBLE SATIRE AT BEST, BUT STILL JUST A CARTOON. AND OF COURSE YOUR VIEWS ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION.

THAT STILL DOESN'T GIVE THE "NATIONAL MEDIA" THE RIGHT TO SWAY PUBIC OPINION THRU SUCH DISPICALBE METHODS. WOULD IT STILL HAVE BEEN O.K. TO PUBLISH THE CARTOON IF THE MONKEY HAD HAD A NOOSE AROUND HIS NECK INSTEAD OF TWO BULLET HOLES IN HIS CHEST?????.......DA.MN I STILL CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AND THE SATIRE IS JUST KILLING ME......LOL.

I THINK THE NEW YORK POST APOLOGY AND THE SUBSEQUENT APOLOGY BY THE PEOPLE WHO SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS SAID IT ALL.........WHAT THE NEW YORK POST DID, WHILE PROTECTED BY FREE SPEECH, WAS NOT VERY APPROPRIATE FOR A NATIONAL NEWS AGENCY.

SO YOU SEE, BLACKS COULD REALLY CARE LESS WHAT THE HAPPYGS, DANIMALS, SUSANS, AND MR. NO-SENSE, ET ALL SAY AND THINK ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE "PROTESTING". YOU CAN PREACH TO YOUR CHOIRS UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER, BUT WHEN A "NATIONAL NEWSPAPER" TRY'S TO RESHAPE THE ALREADY WARPED THINKING OF WHITE AMERICA....THEN, YES, WE WILL RAISE HELL ABOUT IT.

FORTUNATELY, THERE ARE STILL QUITE ENOUGH GOOD WHITE FOLK TO MAKE UP FOR THE STUPID THINKING OF YOU BUMBLING IDIOTS THAT CALL YOURSELVES LIBERTARIANS OR WHATEVER......LOL

CAIO A TUTTI AND ALLAH'HAFIZ

DA.MN FORGOT TO TURN THEM CAPS OFF AGAIN.......LOL

Here's a good video...the speaker happens to be a young, smart, black man, unlike the ones who come here to whine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os1CzsDv0sM&eurl=http://www.rightwingnews.com/#post14590

LATIF,
Ithink you need to put this cartoon in context of recent events. A monkey went crazy and attacked a woman. This stimulas bill that was just passed is just as crazy, amoung some of us that don't agree that it is the best thing to do. The people who wrote this stimulas bill, which was not Obama, are the ones that I think the writer of this cartoon was making fun of. I think you really need to take a minute, step back and see it for what it is. I am white and when I first seen the cartoon, connecting it to Obama was the last thing I was thinking. You really need to grow some thicker skin or get a since of humor. Ease up a bit.

Careful Scant,
you will be labled as one of the Three Amigoes...
OH BY THE WAY LATIF, MY WIFE< WHO IS MEXICAN, FINDS YOUR COMMENT ABOUT "AMIGOES" TO BE VERY RACIST AND TAKES OFFENCE TO IT> She said its very typical of the blacks she grew up with in the south end to use racial slurs against Mexicans and see nothing wrong with it. just as you have done about 10 times on here. You are at best a hippocrit.

TO SCANT:

YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION ON WETHER OR NOT THE CARTOON WAS RACIST AND YOU AND OTHERS ON THIS THREAD ARE ALSO FREE TO LABEL ME ANWAY YOU SO CHOOSE. IT DOESN'T CHANGE A THING........LOL.
I AM ONLY GLAD THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME DECENT WHITE FOLK WHO UNDERSTOOD THE GRAVITY OF THEIR ACTIONS AND APOLOGIZED....SOMETHING THE NARROW-MINDED PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD WILL NEVER FULLY COMPREHEND BECAUSE OF THEIR CLOSED MINDEDNESS. I ONLY WISH THE "GOOD" WHITE FOLK WOULD SPEAK OUT MORE.......THEN MAYBE THIS IDIOT-MINORITY OF LIBERTARIANS WOULD JUST SHUT UP WITH ALL OF THIS........."IT'S JUST A CARTOON CRAP".
TO DANIMAL:

I WONDER IF THAT WAS THE SAME MEXICAN FAMILY WHO USE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ME AND CALL ME THE "N" WORD EVERY CHANCE THEY GOT......LOL.

THE LAST TIME I CHECKED AMIGO WAS THE SPANISH WORD FOR MAN.....YOUR WIFE MUST BE AN IDIOT LIKE YOU!!!!

Latif,

I'm not your "darlin".

I do happen to post under my real name, thank you very much. But even if I didn't, there is absolutely nothing cowardly about posting under a fake name on a forum such as this. Afterall, there's a lot of unstable people out there reading (AND POSTING ON) these things and people have a right to protect their identity and privacy here.

Since you are so sure that this cartoon was racist. Then what was it every time George Bush was depicted as or compared to a chimp? Don't give me some big long all-caps diatribe that really doesn't answer the question. Just tell me why it was ok to do it to Bush and when they do it to Obama, suddenly it's racist and wrong.

Not only is Hodges a racist, he is simply ignorant. I suspect he is just baiting people because it is hard to believe any human would think as he does.

I agree, Tom. He did not address any of the issues, but focused on his perceived racism aspect. By his own admission, he has had a great life. So, where's the beef?

Only a racist like Hodges, who is looking for racism because he likes being a victim, would see racism in this cartoon. There is absolutely no racism about it. And that the Post apologized only means they are looking out for their economic interests. It is not an admission of anything. But, racists like Hodges don't really understand economics, either.

Latif,
you a liar and an idiot. Clearly the word was used to attack.
You used the word Amigoe in a derogatory way, belittleing the meaning. Do not try to lie out of it. The other two you include are not even men, so thats proof enough.
Now, I can accept any insult you choose to throw at me, but you have now attacked my wife, calling her an idiot. This is not acceptable. Maybe you and I need to sit down in a public place, say The Meating PLace on Market, at 7pm tonight, and I will allow you to make your appology to her at that time. Be there.

I would like to invite any of you on here to the Meating Place on Market to night at 7pm, to here Mr. I love all people, Latif the muslim, live up to his words, and admit the truth that what he said was a racist remark, then apologize to my wife, much the same way the POST made an apology over what some saw as a racist cartoon. Some where offended so they did what they were asked.
Well LATIF, now you have offended someone and it's time you pony up cowboy.

danimal, I'm not so sure the owners of the Meeting Place will be happy with you inviting a nutcase like Latif into their establishment. People like Latif don't apologize to anyone, even when they know they were out of line.

Just to offer my two cents --

This cartoon shouldn't have been printed in the Post -- it's racially insensitive at best and bluntly racist at worst. Even if it wasn't the cartoonist's intent, it should have been caught by someone in editorial that it carried some ugly connotations. If a 6-year-old kid hears the term "porch monkey" out of context and decides to start using it for his own reasons, it's an adult's responsiblity to tell him to knock it off and let him know the problems. You don't just let the kid run around saying it and excuse him because "oh, that's not what he means." You know?

-A White Guy

TO SUSAN:

SORRY "DARLIN", BUT I WAS ALREADY ASKED AND I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION LONG AGO ON THIS THREAD. AND EVEN THOUGH SOME OF YOU ARE KIND OF DENSE, I GET TIRED OF REPEATING MYSELF.......GO BACK AND READ ONE OF MY ORIGINAL POST.

TO MR. NO-SENSE:

IF YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR LAZY REAR IN DOWNSTAIRS TO "YOUR" CLASSIFIED ADS DEPARTMENT, YOU WILL SEE THAT MY NAME IS NO LONGER "HODGES", IT WAS LEGALLY CHANGED LAST JULY..........YOU MY FRIEND ARE THE IGNORANT ONE. AND IF YOU PREFER TO CALL ME BY WHAT USED TO BE MY CHRISTIAN NAME....PRESS ON.......DOESN'T BOTHER ME ONE BIT.......TO SOME PEOPLE I WILL ALWAYS BE GREG HODGES.....LIKE MY MOTHER FOR EXAMPLE.

ECONOMIC DECISON BY THE POST OR ETHICAL DECISION BY THE POST.....I GUESS WE ARE AT ODDS AGAIN. DID YOU SEE THE EDITORIALS IN YOUR OWN NEWPAPER TODAY CONCERNING THE NAACP AND THE CARTOON........YOUR COLLEAGUES DON'T EVEN AGREE WITH YOU CLOWN!!!!

TO HAPPYG:

I ADDRESSED YOUR ISSUES AS EACH ONE OF YOU BROUGHT THEM UP...I JUST HATE TO KEEP REPEATING MYSELF BECAUSE YOU CLOWNS KEEP SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER.....NOTHING NEW....JUST THE SAME OLE RHETORIC.....LOL. AND YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP MR. NOSENSES REAR IN, THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.....LOL.

TO DANIMAL:

WHY WOULD I WANT TO MEET YOU OR YOUR WIFE...YOU GET DUMBER BY THE MINUTE....LOL. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT HER INTO THE DIALOGUE IDIOT BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T MAN ENOUGH TO STAND ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET!!

O.K. I APOLOGIZE......SORRY YOUR WIFE MARRIED SUCH AN IDIOT!!!

TO WHITE GUY:

I KNOW THESE CLOWNS ON THIS THREAD ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WHITE POPULATION AT LARGE, AND I HAVE MUCH RESPECT FOR YOU VOICING A DIFFERENT "WHITE" OPINION. MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO YOU MY BROTHER!!

OF COURSE THESE IDIOTS WILL PROBABLY LABEL YOU A "N" LOVER OR EVEN WORSE ACCUSE YOU OF BEING A BLACK MAN PRETENDING TO BE WHITE ON THIS THREAD. THEY ARE SO JUVENILE AT TIME....AND THEN THEY WONDER WHY I CALL THEM SILLY AND STUPID.....GO FIGURE.

Latif, I wouldn't know if you had answered the question before because I grew very tird very fast of your screaming caps and stopped reading. More people would be willing to read and listen to what you have to say if you weren't yelling constantly. I suspect that if I did go back and torture myself trying to read your drivel, I'd find that you really never did answer that question.

I honestly don't know why anyone here is wasting anymore time on you at all.. you have nothing of value to contribute.

@hans solo,
Just what the hell is a porch monkey? Sounds like the neighbors pet. Why would you use such a racial term?

@Latif,
Just can't get over the name calling huh? And you ain't man enough to enter intop a face to face deabte either. That figures. All mouth. All lies.
Everyone else is not entitled to their oppinion, if they disagree with you, they are racist. If they agree, they are brother? What a predictable moron you are turning out to be. And a liar muslum. I am surprized your christian mother has not disowned you. Poor woman. And you to betray her faith the way you have. Shameful.
Well if you aint man enough to do the right thing...so be it. I am through with the likes of your racist ass.

@Susan, Happy G, Tom, Scant,
I choose to now ignore the ignorance of Latif Hodges. Why don't we all do the same. After all, you can't debate a racist liar...a fake...a traitor to his country.

LET US PRAY!!!

I KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A TEMENDOUS "RACIAL" BACKLASH IF OBAMA WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, BUT I NEVER THOUGHT IN A MILLION YEARS THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN SO QUICKLY AND BE SO INTENSE. PICTURE OF A DEAD MONKEY. PICTURE OF THE WHITE HOUSE WITH WATERMELLONS COVERING THE FRONT YARD. HATE GROUPS IN WHITE AMERICA GROWING LIKE CRAZY. JUST HEARD ON CNN THAT ONE HATE GROUP'S SERVER HAD SO MANY HITS YESTERDAY IN SUCH A SHORT SPAN OF TIME THAT THEIR SERVER CRASHED.....DA.MN. THREATS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE ON BROTHER OBAMA'S LIFE. LET US ALL PRAY FOR THE SAFETY OF BROTHER OBAMA AND HIS FAMILY. AULHMDULLILLA!!

Danimal -- I have no clue what you're trying to say with that.

Latif, i think i agree with the core of your sentiment, but the all-caps sensationalist thing isn't really making your point any better. It's the internet -- you don't have to yell.

Agree, danimal. You can't have a discussion with raw hatred.

First sensable thing I have read from LATIF...
Yes, I do pray for our leaders ...all of them...including ALLL.
I voted for Obama....I don't want him to fail...but I fear he is taking the wrong path, so it is my right, yay, my very duty to call him on those issues...which I have...that is if he reads the letters to the white house.
And there have been threats to EVERY Persd. the USA has ever had. They were not and ARE not all RACIAL.

Danimal,
I agree. I have not been able to post as much as I have liked to latley for personal reasons, but I try to stay up on the debates. Latif, you seem to me to be just as a big of a racist as you acusse others on this blog. That chip on your shoulder must be very hard to carry around brother, get over it. I know the three amigos that you like to call them, not personaly, but through this blog and having many conversations with them, and I have never heard any of them make any racial comments against any race. If I had heard them make a racial slur against another race I would have called them out on it, as they I am sure would have done the same thing. Latif isn't it about time the black community stop listening to the race baiters as, sharpton and jackson and start reaching your full potental that this country gives everyone? Slavery ended over a hunderd and forty years ago, can we let that go? Why are you so pissed off? You are only held back by your own hang up's.

TO DANIMAL AND THE AMIGOES:

I WISH EVERONE WOULD GET OVER THESE CAPS.......LOL.

AFTER A WEEK OF INTENSE DEBATE, THE VOICES OF REASON ARE STARTING TO PREVAIL. EVERYONE HAS TONED DOWN THEIR RHETORIC AND I HAVE EVEN TONED DOWN MY RHETORIC A BIT; BUT YOU CLOWNS PROBABLY HAVEN'T EVEN NOTICED.....TO HUNG UP ON THESE DANG CAPS NOW......LOL.

IN ANY EVENT, WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN ISSUES IN LIFE, THEIR WILL NEVER BE TOTAL AGREEMENT. ALL THAT CAN BE ASKED IS THAT PEOPLE NOT BE AFRAID TO EXPRESS THEIR OPPOSING VIEWS.

ANYWAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST END THIS THREAD BY SAYING WHAT THE WORLD REALLY NEEDS IS JUST MORE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

ASTA MANYANA

CIAO A TUTTI

ALLAH'HAFIZ

Latif, I like the caps thing myself...shows how hard headed you are...like me.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE......... THAT'S ALL PEOPLE....EVEN YOU "HARD-HEADED" LIBERTARIANS......LOL!!!!