Henry Stange wrote:
Don't you just hate the liberal Democrats?
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28 September 2009 16:39:11
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buckeye wrote:
The bank employee is probably throwing a fit because people can commit bank fraud with the account numbers on the bottom of the check. They will create fake checks and just use the routing numbers on the bottom. A common scam they use is to get on dating sites and get idiot women to cash the checks and send them some of the money. Of course, the checks are then found to be fradulent and the check cashee (i.e. idiot) has the money taken back out of their checking account.
The one difference in this situation is that the bank knows this number just went public and they would be smart to change the account numbers.
The one difference in this situation is that the bank knows this number just went public and they would be smart to change the account numbers.
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28 September 2009 16:41:08
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Henry Stange wrote:
http://www.routingnumbers.org/bank_routing_number_241279616.html
It isn't like that stuff isn't readily available on the interweb already.
It isn't like that stuff isn't readily available on the interweb already.
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28 September 2009 17:05:34
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Susan wrote:
WHO photographed and released the copy of this check in the first place????? As a former employee of a banking institution, I would think that would be a firing offense.
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28 September 2009 17:12:16
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Lucente wrote:
Henry Stange,
I don't hate liberals. They give me something to do.
But you are right, this information is easily obtainable. Forgers don't need me to post a copy to get the information they need.
~tjl~
I don't hate liberals. They give me something to do.
But you are right, this information is easily obtainable. Forgers don't need me to post a copy to get the information they need.
~tjl~
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28 September 2009 17:46:03
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Lucente wrote:
Buckeye,
Exactly. If the credit union is concerned about security, it can easily change the account numbers. However, I doubt they think it necessary. After all, the number appears on all its cashier's check. It is not some secret number. Anyone who wants it can get it.
~tjl~
Exactly. If the credit union is concerned about security, it can easily change the account numbers. However, I doubt they think it necessary. After all, the number appears on all its cashier's check. It is not some secret number. Anyone who wants it can get it.
~tjl~
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28 September 2009 17:47:02
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Lucente wrote:
Susan,
The court released it because it is part of the public record now. They had a legal obligation to give it to us. That's life in a free and open society. And that is more important than Neeper's silly and unwarranted concern about the numbers.
Besides, if Neeper really wanted the numbers redacted, he should have asked nicely instead of calling us and threatening us with legal action if the check is not removed. That just pisses me off.
~tjl~
The court released it because it is part of the public record now. They had a legal obligation to give it to us. That's life in a free and open society. And that is more important than Neeper's silly and unwarranted concern about the numbers.
Besides, if Neeper really wanted the numbers redacted, he should have asked nicely instead of calling us and threatening us with legal action if the check is not removed. That just pisses me off.
~tjl~
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28 September 2009 17:49:06
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AverageGuy wrote:
Tom, this is just wrong. This copy is in black and white! I demand a full color version be released! Lol
Superior actually posts its routing number right at the top of the contact page of their website for easy access.
https://www.superiorfcu.com/asp/contact.asp
I'm guessing this has more to do with fears of possible negative press knowing that the money to bail out an accused murderer came from their institution, which is just silly.
Also, I find it funny that there's a link on Superior's page in the "local news" section to the Lima News article.
Superior actually posts its routing number right at the top of the contact page of their website for easy access.
https://www.superiorfcu.com/asp/contact.asp
I'm guessing this has more to do with fears of possible negative press knowing that the money to bail out an accused murderer came from their institution, which is just silly.
Also, I find it funny that there's a link on Superior's page in the "local news" section to the Lima News article.
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28 September 2009 19:11:49
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Lucente wrote:
AverageGuy,
Do you want the watermarks, too?
~tjl~
Do you want the watermarks, too?
~tjl~
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28 September 2009 20:46:07
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MultiFacetedView wrote:
Hey Tom, First time to this site wow a million dollar check ... ( multi here )
If the guy is found guilty,
Do you know if a Life insurance policy of his previous deceased wife played a part in allowing him to make this HUGE bail amount?
If he is found guilty and recieved any Life insurance policy monies ( I belive law states you can not to profit from a crime and retain it. ) my question is could he be charged with fraud?
Could the insurance co. petition the courts to hold this money as part of reclamation if a guilty verdict is given?
( ah come on, color copy with watermarks pls ) lol lol
If the guy is found guilty,
Do you know if a Life insurance policy of his previous deceased wife played a part in allowing him to make this HUGE bail amount?
If he is found guilty and recieved any Life insurance policy monies ( I belive law states you can not to profit from a crime and retain it. ) my question is could he be charged with fraud?
Could the insurance co. petition the courts to hold this money as part of reclamation if a guilty verdict is given?
( ah come on, color copy with watermarks pls ) lol lol
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28 September 2009 23:11:21
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HappyG wrote:
I'll take it in $20s, please... 
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29 September 2009 07:26:20
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Lucente wrote:
@multi,
Welcome to the site.
You pose some interesting questions. Unfortunately, I do not know the answers. I would assume (we know where that gets us) that he had an insurance policy on her and that he did collect. If that were the case, I suspect that the insurance company, if he is convicted, can try to get their money back, but I don't know if there really is any precedent to charging someone for fraud in such a case. I will research that, though, when I get the time because I am interested in knowing the answer to your questions.
~tjl~
Welcome to the site.
You pose some interesting questions. Unfortunately, I do not know the answers. I would assume (we know where that gets us) that he had an insurance policy on her and that he did collect. If that were the case, I suspect that the insurance company, if he is convicted, can try to get their money back, but I don't know if there really is any precedent to charging someone for fraud in such a case. I will research that, though, when I get the time because I am interested in knowing the answer to your questions.
~tjl~
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29 September 2009 12:57:30
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harryjohnson wrote:
An individual on an insurance policy (or any other will/testament/etc) cannot collect if they did in fact murder (or in some states even cause the death) of the individual with whom they are being bestowed said gift. I would have to assume if there has been an investigation during this entire period of time the insurance company would not just hand over a check amidst the clouds. They would most likely hire their own investigators as well before forking over a huge life insurance check.
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30 September 2009 12:26:35
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recoveringdemocratturnedconsindependent wrote:
This is all so very sad! I use to attend church in Celina with this couple and thought they were both very nice people. I thought that Dr. Mark was pretty much of a geek stereotype and I am shocked that he could do something like this but I also know that more shocking things have happened. I was also shocked back in the day to hear that he was on call for then President Reagan. He was a top-notch doctor! No matter what, this is an extremely shocking and sad saga! The saddest part of this story is their children.
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19 October 2009 19:20:55
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$1 million check gets doc out of jail
The above check was posted as bail for Dr. Mark Wangler, the anesthesiologist accused of killing his first wife three years ago.
I am only posting the check because I have never seen a $1 million check before. (Click on the image to see a better quality copy.)
And because Kurt Neeper, a candidate for City Council and an employee with Superior Federal Credit Union, was whining that the check should not be posted online.
Consider this a blow for the First Amendment and Ohio's public records laws. If Neeper is going to be on a government body, he must learn to have a better appreciation for the value of public records.
Don't bother calling your lawyer, Kurt, it is staying online.
category | Free Speech
author | Lucente