HappyG wrote:
I noticed Ted Kennedy didn't leave the country to get health care. Italian's Bersconi, came to the U.S. a few years ago for heart surgery. Amazing he's still alive, isn't it? Belinda Stronach, Canadian Parliament, came to U.S. for cancer treatment, as well as King Hussein of Jordan. Former President Mitterand sought treatment in the U.S., and the Shah of Iran, to name a few. Maybe Dodd ought to go to France, who is #1 in healthcare, though Mitterand died of prostrate cancer, the kind Dodd has. I think they will stay put.
You are correct Tom, about how WHO ranks the nations. It's deceiving.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/bp/html/bp101/bp101index.html
You are correct Tom, about how WHO ranks the nations. It's deceiving.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/bp/html/bp101/bp101index.html
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CBrown519 wrote:
Wouldn't auto insurance fall into this category as well? We are forced by government, albeit state government in this case, to purchase it, lest we be unable to get a driver's license. Get caught driving without it and have a siginificant fine levied against the driver.
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HappyG wrote:
Car insurance is to protect the driver from lawsuits from other drivers. You choose what kind of policy you want or need. When you get behind the wheel, there is a chance you will be responsible for harming someone else, or their property. Before there was car insurance, people would cause thousands of dollars in damages to other folks that couldn't be paid, so the victim ended up in debt or without transportation, or unable to work.
Health care is a personal choice, that doesn't affect other people, except personally.
In both scenarios, there are discrpancies, but for the most part, that's how it is.
Health care is a personal choice, that doesn't affect other people, except personally.
In both scenarios, there are discrpancies, but for the most part, that's how it is.
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18 September 2009 07:30:51
18 September 2009 07:30:51
CBrown519 wrote:
I thought of that argument, but our government auto insurance policies also include "uninsured motorist" coverage. So now, we're buying insurance to "cover" those who are choosing to disobey the law and drive illegally without auto insurance coverage.
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18 September 2009 08:50:44
18 September 2009 08:50:44
Lucente wrote:
Additionally, you can choose not to drive or own a car. So there is still some choice. In health care, if you are alive, you are going to have to buy the insurance.
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18 September 2009 11:40:49
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CBrown519 wrote:
I could, in the libertarian view, choose to stop living, too, could I not?
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18 September 2009 11:53:36
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Lucente wrote:
You could. However, government giving you the choice of buying health insurance or dying to avoid buying health insurance is not much of a "choice."
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More Nonsense From Liberals on Health Care
On Wednesday, Rocker Paul Hipp released this video advocating for health care reform.
There are two points that should be made.
First, the following lyrics show what is wrong with the left, and many on the right for that matter:
What he is saying is that because Americans have to pay for their health care instead of having it given to them, then we can't be the land of the free.
Really?
When did government entitlement become the defining factor of whether the nation is free? In reality, the opposite is true. We are free because the government, at least not yet, is not forcing us to buy a specific product, i.e., health insurance, or face some government-imposed sanction for refusing.
Under the so-called health care reform, Americans will, for the first time ever, be forced to buy a consumer product at the point of a government gun.
How is that freedom?
Too bad Mr. Hipp and his fellow liberals don't understand that basic fact.
The second point is minor, but one that bothers me.
In this video, Hipp refers to the World Health Organization's ranking of the U.S. health care system as the 37th out of 191 in the world (which is still better than the bulk of the world). It is a ranking that has been repeated in the current debate.
However, that is deceptive.
First, the ranking is from 2000.
Second, the rating is highly subjective. It was weighted based on how well a country's health system was doing compared to how well WHO's experts believed it should be doing based on education level and economic resources.
In the end, it was not an apples to apples comparison.
Using it as a reason to advocate for a government takeover of the health system is to use specious logic.
category | Health Care
author | Lucente